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To: CynicalBear
Please prove that what the Catholic Church teaches today as "tradition" is exactly what the apostles taught as "tradition".

We have Christ's promise that it will

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

225 posted on 04/28/2015 5:36:06 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
Oh no! That doesn't work at all.

LOL! Let's look at the real Matthew 6:18.

Matthew 6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. Then we will look at the verse you like to use.

Matthew 16:18 'And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock (Petros - a movable unstable rock), and upon this rock (petra - unmovable bedrock) I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

First of all "gates" are to keep things out and things in.

Second - Hades is NOT hell. It is the abode of the of the unseen. Where ALL the dead reside. It will in no way defeat the ekklesia of Christ in that they will one day be raised from that place to abide with Christ forever. The Catholic Church lies about that passage.

>>the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth<<

You seem to like that passage yet deny what other scripture says.

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

You see, that same Spirit has been given to true believers. Once again the Catholic Church lies.

>>the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.<<

One more time. Pillars and foundations hold things up. The ekklesia of Christ is to hold up the truth of scripture. The Catholic Church makes things up which are not in scripture and twists the meaning of other scripture. Once again the Catholic Church lies.

280 posted on 04/28/2015 6:30:56 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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