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To: terycarl; metmom; boatbums; redleghunter; daniel1212; Old Yeller; knarf; smvoice; MHGinTN
Well, let me say this about that. First of all, your definition of "Christian " or "believer" and mine, are probably light years apart, so I can see where we have disagreement. So be it. Old Testament saints, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, were saved by "faith" (oops, there's that word again) exactly the same way New Testament saints are saved. Old Testament saints had "faith" in God, that a savior would come. New Testament saints are saved by "faith" in the savior that has already come. Now, it's possible that your definition of faith and mine, once again, are light years apart. So be it. Old Testament believers and New Testament believers are saved EXACTLY the same way, by "faith" this is what Jesus meant, in my infallible interpretation, 😇 when He said you must be born again. Even Peter, the first Pope (not) said there was no other name given under Heaven. My opinion is, I can see the wheels turning in your head, like these people think they can get saved by faith, and then live like Hell. This has been explained to you and many others about 3,975 times. Let me give a one word answer for the 3,976th time. NO it can't be done. Now, you may or may not agree, or even like the explanation, So be it.

There are, of course, a number of us former, wayward, apostate Catholics, who are comfortable in our skin. Praise God for that. 😎 Get used to it, I am sure it will not change anytime soon. I am not interested in swimming across any rivers today. It's ok with me, whatever you choose to believe. That's on you. Have a nice eternity. See you at the pearly gates, maybe. 😇

1,015 posted on 05/03/2015 10:13:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forever more endure.)
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To: Mark17

Meat you offer, Brother! The basis of a tasty sermon, too.


1,024 posted on 05/04/2015 8:24:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Mark17
I am sure it will not change anytime soon.

Yeah, but it will sooner or later. Catholics usually come home after they realize that their store front excuse for leaving the church was a really bad idea and certainly did not fulfill their search for what they thought was missing....it wasn't.See you soon, back where you belong.!!

1,090 posted on 05/04/2015 9:20:05 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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