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Are you infallible?
One Fold ^ | December 10, 2013 | Brian Culliton

Posted on 04/28/2015 8:36:56 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; MamaB
-— The Bible is the only thing we need for salvation. -—

Where is that in the Bible?

Oh c'mon...The relevant scripture has been posted to you guys thousands of times...And now you are pretending you've never seen them???

501 posted on 04/29/2015 5:22:10 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool; St_Thomas_Aquinas; editor-surveyor

Since I’m already in the book of Ephesians with editor-surveyor, I thought I would give the Scripture regarding the baptism, the ONE baptism that the Holy Spirit performs on us, the body of Christ, in this age of grace: Eph. 4:5. ONE baptism, not two. Whereby the Holy Spirit baptizes us INTO the body of Christ. Spiritual, not water.


502 posted on 04/29/2015 5:22:52 PM PDT by smvoice ("It certainly looked like a small toe")
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To: paladinan; MamaB
But, FRiend... the Bible doesn't SAY that! If you trust the Bible so much, then why make up unbiblical stuff like this?

Yes, the bible does say that...

503 posted on 04/29/2015 5:25:29 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor
If you believe Hebrews 6 teaches you can lose salvation, then it also teaches you cannot get it back.

Do you believe that???

504 posted on 04/29/2015 5:35:15 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: editor-surveyor
There are many that think they are “saved” simply because they said the very unbiblical “sinners prayer” and go to a church.

They have not “studied to show themselves approved,” and have been told that salvation is an unconditionally guaranteed shot just for saying a few words that were given to them to recite.

Luk_18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

Was that guy saved???

Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

Was this thief saved???

They both said a 'sinner's prayer'...Seems biblical to me...

505 posted on 04/29/2015 5:36:25 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ealgeone
Ephesians 1:13-14.....read it in the Greek.

I read it in the English...I don't see how it could be made any more clear that what I read...

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

506 posted on 04/29/2015 5:41:18 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Vermont Lt
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
507 posted on 04/29/2015 5:47:54 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: metmom
What’s the word of mouth teachings that are not in Scripture.
So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter. 2 Thessalonians 2:15

And telling us to read Scripture is NOT an answer because Catholicism claims they are word of mouth aka tradition, and weren’t included in Scripture.
It is in Scripture, that everything is not in Scripture

So what are they? How do you know? How do you know they were passed down faithfully?

We have Christ’s promise that His Church will always teach the Truth:
“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

What are your sources for such knowledge and please post them for verification purposes.
The Scripture I just posted.

508 posted on 04/29/2015 5:48:24 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
It is in Scripture, that everything is not in Scripture

That's right...And what's not there is not scripture...

But at the same time, what is also in scripture is that every thing we need to know to gain salvation is written in scripture...So there you go...

509 posted on 04/29/2015 5:53:48 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: RnMomof7
And that from a child you have known the holy scriptures, which are able to make you wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.2 Tim 3:15

Now let’s look at context and reality:
1. This was written to Timothy
2. Timothy was born in 17 AD
Therefore, the Scripture Timothy knew from infancy and what Paul is referring to is The Old Testament. The New Testament wasn't written at the time of Timothy’s infancy.

510 posted on 04/29/2015 6:02:15 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Iscool
But at the same time, what is also in scripture is that every thing we need to know to gain salvation is written in scripture

Where is that in Scripture? That is just your man-made, make believe religion.

511 posted on 04/29/2015 6:05:23 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: editor-surveyor

You sound just like a Catholic.....


512 posted on 04/29/2015 6:29:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FatherofFive

So what ARE the word of mouth teachings passed down?

You have not yet answered that question.

Give us examples.

Specifics.

List the word of mouth teachings passed down from the apostles that you KNOW are from the apostles, and that you KNOW have been passed down faithfully in the form in which they were given.

Show us the path of transmission, who the word of mouth teachings were handed down to and from.


514 posted on 04/29/2015 6:35:32 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FatherofFive; metmom
What’s the word of mouth teachings that are not in Scripture.

So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter. 2 Thessalonians 2:15

So what are these traditions??

The question has been asked hundreds of times and yet, no catholic has given the answer.

515 posted on 04/29/2015 6:54:19 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom

What are you talking about?

I’m sure you’ve noticed that nothing I’ve posted pleases any of the catholics.


516 posted on 04/29/2015 6:56:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: smvoice

Perhaps you are somehow unaware that Torah is what Paul preached, every day, everywhere.

In Hebrews 4:2 he makes it clear that the gospel that he preached is the exact gospel that Moses preached, and the difference in effect was a lack of faith.

The body of believers began with Adam. There is zero difference.

The “mystery” that Paul revealed is that Yeshua’s remarriage to the House of Israel to whom Paul preached was not forbidden by Torah because her husband had died.

God has divided nothing, but the sheep and the goats.

What you post is nonsense, its not found in the word, it is in the imagination of a few men. “Now” is when each person has to face his sin and repent. It is a different now for each person. “Time past” was before each person was moved by the Holy Spirit.

The kingdom is in most respects yet to come. We see it darkly, as reflected in a glass, but in that moment at the last trump we will know as we are known.


517 posted on 04/29/2015 7:13:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ealgeone

When you quit repenting each sin, you reach a point where there is no possibility of return.

That is what the word plainly says.


518 posted on 04/29/2015 7:16:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MamaB
Jesus isThe Rock. Why do y’all insist on puting a man in that position?

We'all didn't...Jesus did...read it yourself.

519 posted on 04/29/2015 7:20:21 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: editor-surveyor

So you believe once your salvation is lost there is no second chance.....no second chance. Nothing can be done.


520 posted on 04/29/2015 7:22:52 PM PDT by ealgeone
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