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Are you infallible?
One Fold ^ | December 10, 2013 | Brian Culliton

Posted on 04/28/2015 8:36:56 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: WVKayaker

Thanks. Yes He is. People are trying to put a man over Jesus.


161 posted on 04/28/2015 3:02:36 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB
Y’all are the ones making up junk.

Ok brilliant one, show me what I am 'making up'

162 posted on 04/28/2015 3:03:42 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!

You can repeat a lie enough to believe it yourself!

The Roman Catholic cult does not represent the ecclesia! The ecclesia are the "called out", not those "sprinkled as babies" and indoctrinated into legalistic mumbo-jumbo!

Paul never talked about a Roman Catholic church. He did write a letter to Christians at Rome... and included all those who are part of God's true church. It is not an exclusive club with fancy waiters in costumes! God is a Spirit.

Romans 1: 1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— 2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3 regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David, 4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. 5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake. 6 And you also are AMONG those Gentiles who are called to belong to Jesus Christ. ...

Romans 8: ... 5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

163 posted on 04/28/2015 3:03:59 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: WVKayaker
You never answered the question

What Church?

164 posted on 04/28/2015 3:06:54 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FourtySeven; WVKayaker
Isaiah 22:21-23 is a prophecy of the coming of Yeshua.
Isaiah 22:

21] And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.
[22] And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.
[23] And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house.

Revelation 3:8
behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

165 posted on 04/28/2015 3:09:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: FatherofFive
You never answered the question What Church?

I answered it. Apparently you didn't like my answer. That is not my problem.

Trolling is typical of Roman Catholic cultists. They think they are working their way through their salvation, but just hope to make it out of purgatory!

Romans 10: ... 5 Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the law: “The person who does these things will live by them.” 6 But the righteousness that is by faith says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the deep?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”

16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?” 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ. ...

166 posted on 04/28/2015 3:14:11 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: FatherofFive; WVKayaker

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>> “Which Church?” <<

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No church!!!!

The word church is in every case in the Bible a mistranslation of ekklesia, which is the congregation, or assembly.

That serpent’s breath is still with us!
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167 posted on 04/28/2015 3:14:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: FatherofFive
You never answered the question What Church?

This church:

Revelation 3:14-22 (NIV)

14 “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation.
15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!
16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.
18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.
19 Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent.
20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.
21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.
22 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

This must refer to the Roman Catholic church because it's the last one addressed by Jesus in the Holy Bible.
168 posted on 04/28/2015 3:17:23 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: paladinan

Jesus isThe Rock. Why do y’all insist on puting a man in that position?


169 posted on 04/28/2015 3:23:47 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: paladinan
Could you also explain how St. Ignatius of Antioch, who lived from roughly 50-117 A.D., could write the following, given your hypothesis?

"See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father

That's an easy one...Those writings of Ignatius were forgeries written a couple hundred years later and attributed to Ignatius...Likely it was Eusebius...

170 posted on 04/28/2015 3:26:58 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: FatherofFive

It sure wasn’t the Catholic church.


171 posted on 04/28/2015 3:27:36 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB

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>> “It sure wasn’t the Catholic church.” <<

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The synagogue of Satan? I sure it is.


172 posted on 04/28/2015 3:37:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Iscool; paladinan

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>> “Those writings of Ignatius were forgeries written a couple hundred years later and attributed to Ignatius...Likely it was Eusebius.” <<

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Strong chance of that!

It was definitely Eusebius that added verse 4 to John 6.
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173 posted on 04/28/2015 3:43:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Resettozero
Blah, Blah Blah.

Which Church?

>"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Which Church?

174 posted on 04/28/2015 3:44:58 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: MamaB
It sure wasn’t the Catholic church.

Than what Church was it?

What Church has been around since St. Peter?

175 posted on 04/28/2015 3:47:12 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

A church is a fellowship of believers. No name necessary.


176 posted on 04/28/2015 3:47:46 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: RnMomof7

Another great article RnMomof7!!!


177 posted on 04/28/2015 3:51:03 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: editor-surveyor

Rev 3:7 seems more clear. Sure, I don’t have a problem with Isa 22 being a prophecy for the coming Messiah; after all, Jesus gave the keys to St. Peter in Matt 16:19, He obviously therefore HAD them to give! And He will have them during the events described in Rev 3:7-8.

I don’t see how this abrogates or negates the parallel as far as St. Peter would have seen it though. He (St. Peter) would have understood Jesus to be giving him (St. Peter) the same kind of “key” (or keys) mentioned in Isa 22, that is, authority to rule over His Kingdom on Earth.

Now, did he (St. Peter) understand it THEN at that moment? I’m not saying that, so let me be clear there. But looking back at that moment, given his knowledge (he must have had this knowledge) of Isa 22, and after His Resurrection and Ascension, he (St. Peter) would have realized the significance.

Again, the parallel is inescapable, and there’s no way St. Peter didn’t see it either then or more likely after His Ascension.


179 posted on 04/28/2015 3:59:23 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Resettozero
Again, this is your response to my providing Scriptural evidence from the Holy Bible.

Citing random verses is not providing Scriptural evidence. You never answered the question asked

180 posted on 04/28/2015 4:01:46 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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