Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Mr Rogers

That is telling us how we should live now that we have received Jesus, but none of it is a basis for our salvation.

We are saved by grace, not by works, and there is no condition other than calling out on the name of Jesus (Rom 10:13). There’s been a change since the cross which many ignore, but the New Covenant declared Jesus sacrifice perfect and eternal and God does not hold our sins against us (Heb 8:12,10:17).

We could go on and on like this but I’m not sure what good it will do. You are simply ignoring fact that Jesus has already paid for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2), that God has done it all and IT IS FINISHED, and the terms of the New Covenant that declare he will not hold our sins against us because they were already fully judged on the body of His Son. For God to condemn Bruce after he has received Jesus is making God out to be an unjust liar.

God has done it all and all that remains is for us to accept his FREE GIFT. You put repentance as you perceive it as the requirement, although thankfully, God does not. His only requirement is receiving His Son who has done it all.

BTW, what is New Testament “repentance” anyway? It is “repentance from dead works”. What’s that? Dead works are your own righteousness and self effort to be accepted by God instead of letting Jesus’ perfect life and death be your substitute and your righteousness as a gift (Rom 5:17).


90 posted on 04/26/2015 11:23:35 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies ]


To: PapaNew

“You are simply ignoring fact that Jesus has already paid for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2), that God has done it all and IT IS FINISHED, and the terms of the New Covenant that declare he will not hold our sins against us because they were already fully judged on the body of His Son.”

NOT WITHOUT REPENTANCE.

We are NOT all children of God.

” For God to condemn Bruce after he has received Jesus is making God out to be an unjust liar.”

Bruce shows ZERO signs of “receiving” Jesus. There is no indication of repentance, belief, a changed life (in a positive sense), etc. We are saved by grace, but not while rejecting the God who is willing to give it.

“Do not live any longer as the Gentiles live. For they live blindfold in a world of illusion, and cut off from the life of God through ignorance and insensitiveness. They have stifled their consciences and then surrendered themselves to sensuality, practising any form of impurity which lust can suggest.

But you have learned nothing like that from Christ, if you have really heard his voice and understood the truth that he has taught you.”

Someone who mutilates himself to try to change his sex is not living in God’s will or making any pretense of living under God’s will. Not all are saved, only those who repent and believe.


108 posted on 04/26/2015 12:49:36 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies ]

To: PapaNew
We are saved by grace, not by works, and there is no condition other than calling out on the name of Jesus (Rom 10:13). There’s been a change since the cross which many ignore, but the New Covenant declared Jesus sacrifice perfect and eternal and God does not hold our sins against us (Heb 8:12,10:17).

Not to the point of salvation anyways...But God may spank Jenner all the way home...

111 posted on 04/26/2015 12:55:12 PM PDT by Iscool
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson