[Mrs. Don-o]

I don't think it's obscure.

Grace? Yes. All is grace. Faith, yes: but what kind of faith is a faith that saves? A living faith or a dead faith?

James says, "Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith alone?" (James 2:22) Does Paul give "a stern warning and a double curse" to James? No, he agrees:

"And though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing."

We even love, and do good works, by grace. So there you go.

[PapaNew]

Again you’re confusing what it takes to be saved and what it takes to live a victorious Christina life.

We’re going around in circle and I’m not sure we’re getting anywhere with each other here.

I think I’ve said all I can say to you.