[LurkingSince'98]

You obviously dont understand what breaking a vow made to God means -unless you are divorced.

I dont think you get that it doesnt matter who breaks their vows - they are BROKEN.

Luther was excommunicated and became anathema because he deserved it.

Ag Majoram Dei Gloriam

[Resettozero]

Care to comment any more about the article that began this thread?

[metmom]

And it did not escape my notice that the questions I asked were not answered.

Nor do I expect the to be, as they usually are not in the first place and I have yet to see more than a handful of Catholics ever even say anything even negative about their church, much less condemn the blatant and gross immorality that exists and has existed within it.

All I ever see is excuses, denial, blameshifting, and red herrings.

[boatbums]

You obviously dont understand what breaking a vow made to God means -unless you are divorced. I dont think you get that it doesnt matter who breaks their vows - they are BROKEN. Luther was excommunicated and became anathema because he deserved it.

Luther was excommunicated because he wouldn't back down on the truth of the gospel and bow down to Rome's perversion of it, NOT because he left the priesthood and got married.

Tell me, are there CURRENT Roman Catholic priests who have left and gotten married? Are they STILL considered Catholics in good standing even after having done so or does Rome excommunicate them, too? And...aren't there married Roman Catholic priests today?

How pitiful that Luther has become the go-to trump card Roman Catholic apologists imagine they can pull out of their sleeve and halt all further disagreements. Surprise, surprise! It don't work!

[daniel1212]

I dont think you get that it doesnt matter who breaks their vows - they are BROKEN.

But it does indeed matter what kind of vows are broken.

But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the Lord shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her. (Numbers 30:5)

But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the Lord shall forgive her. (Numbers 30:8)

No vow which is contrary to Scripture - which requiring clerical celibacy (save for certain converts) is, an which presumes all have that gift - is, has already been disallowed by God the Father and Christ for His church.

If you want to try to argue with me that clerical celibacy was required and normal for the apostles and NT church, then go ahead.