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The Reformation is over. Catholics 0, Protestants 1
triablogue ^ | April 13, 2015 | Jerry Walls

Posted on 04/25/2015 10:33:08 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: LurkingSince'98; Mark17
An important historical document which supports the teaching of Mary’s perpetual virginity is the Protoevangelium of James, which was written probably less than sixty years after the conclusion of Mary’s earthly life (around A.D. 120), when memories of her life were still vivid in the minds of many.

Will you please stop using psuedepigraphal nonsense to try to support your claims?

The Protoevangelium of James, according to Origen (the first to mention it), was a recent work as of his writing in early 300ce. And contrary to your using him in favor of the book by his quote further down, He did not endorse it. In fact, he says the 'gospel of James', and the 'gospel of Peter' both are dubious at best.

It's first lie is in it's attribution to James - The very title - So why should one believe anything at all thereafter?

In truth, these books arise, by their content, precisely to pimp their content - Roman church syncretism, revisionism and propaganda at it's best (which isn't saying much) - This is precisely why your church fathers can hold no weight whatsoever.

481 posted on 04/27/2015 8:05:26 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Eve was supposed to be sinless until she did what God told her not to do. Since that time everyone was born with a sin nature. Even Mary said she needed a Savior..


482 posted on 04/27/2015 8:08:44 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: LurkingSince'98
Why do Fundamentalists and Evangelicals reject the plain, literal interpretation of John 6? For them, Catholic sacraments are out because they imply a spiritual reality—grace—being conveyed by means of matter. This seems to them to be a violation of the divine plan. For many Protestants, matter is not to be used, but overcome or avoided.

Nonsense.

The first and foremost objection is this:
If Yeshua instituted ANY new rite or sacrament, he would have violated Torah.
That he supposedly added a sacrament involving drinking blood of any kind is a second violation of Torah.

If this is what he did, then he cannot be the perfect atonement, having sinned, nor could he be a true prophet, having violated Torah in an official capacity.

483 posted on 04/27/2015 8:21:01 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: CynicalBear; af_vet_1981
Catholics seem to have block when it comes to "following man"

Their entire faith is based on following the musings of a man who lives in an apartment tucked inside one of the largest, richest museums in the world.

That we don't do the same is unfathomable to them.

484 posted on 04/27/2015 8:22:47 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: MamaB

Also recall that the catholics never put these book as canon when they had the chance. If this was as rock solid as they claim, and as widely believed by the early church as they claim, then why weren’t these included?
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Because the early church knew they were not legit.


485 posted on 04/27/2015 8:23:20 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: LurkingSince'98; GGpaX4DumpedTea
In the New Testament, the new Ark is not an inanimate object, but a person: the Blessed Mother.

This is by far the most hideous of blasphemies. Yeshua, in his human self, is The Ark. The 'container' is his own human form. That requires no perfect womb in a sinless woman, else every other Yeshua touched would have had to be perfect too. What is the perfect is his self - Not his body, not his mother's body, not his grandmother's body.

Equally hideous is this incestuous 'new eve' meme, which, without the need for a 'perfect virgin', becomes wholly untenable. Eisegesis in spades. The New Eve is Yeshua's Bride.

486 posted on 04/27/2015 8:51:30 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: af_vet_1981
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Past tense. WERE.

No longer accountable for the sins, because we are not under the Law any more. God canceled the record of debt that stood against us.

487 posted on 04/27/2015 9:10:58 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: LurkingSince'98; GGpaX4DumpedTea
It is my belief and that of the Catholic Church first recorded in about the firet century AD that Mary was Ever Virgin.

Could you provide some evidence of this ? See scripture indicates she had other children ...

488 posted on 04/27/2015 9:14:09 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Gamecock; LurkingSince'98; metmom; CynicalBear
Regenerate people WANT to go to church and be with Abba. Roman Catholics, based on your post, go to mass to avoid Hell. You can stay on the Roman Catholic treadmill, which is just spinning faster and faster, or you can rest in the finished work of Jesus. His burden is light. Which is it? It matters for eternity.

The Sabbath was a type of Christ..where man could rest from his work( Hebrews 3 & 4)

We do not go to church for fear of going to hell if we do not.. We go to church to celebrate Christ.. to learn more of Him and to worship Him with other believers....

489 posted on 04/27/2015 9:20:56 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: LurkingSince'98

The New Ark is Jesus not Mary.


490 posted on 04/27/2015 9:21:59 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; ...

The previous questions of why do we pray and obey the Ten Commandments if our salvation is secure, just blew me away....

What a revelation into the mindset of the average Catholic......


491 posted on 04/27/2015 9:23:32 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: LurkingSince'98; MamaB
The Ark was a type of Jesus.. but Rome needs a goddess and so they replace Christ with Mary whenever they can

The ark was the center of worship.. the blood of sacrifice was poured on the mercy seat... Mary has no mercy to give..

Just thinking how little God would love Mary if he sent her out in front of the troops in battle and allowed her to be kidnapped by pagans

492 posted on 04/27/2015 9:28:25 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...

**The Ark was a type of Jesus**

All of Scripture is about Jesus. Types. Shadows.

Roman Catholics make it like there’s something about Mary in all of Scripture.


493 posted on 04/27/2015 9:39:50 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

Why do they put so much emphasis on Mary when Christianity is all about Jesus? I just do not understand..


494 posted on 04/27/2015 9:54:52 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB
Why do they put so much emphasis on Mary when Christianity is all about Jesus? I just do not understand..

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Why do they put any emphasis on Mary?

495 posted on 04/27/2015 10:02:28 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

You are right. Thanks.


496 posted on 04/27/2015 10:04:23 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: Gamecock

I think they have a love-hate relationship with Jesus. They seem to want someone other than Him to get all honor, praise and glory.


497 posted on 04/27/2015 10:07:10 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: LurkingSince'98

GG is right. Numbers do not matter.


498 posted on 04/27/2015 10:09:29 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: LurkingSince'98; GGpaX4DumpedTea; MamaB

about a billion and a quarter Catholics think otherwise.

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Argumentum ad populum.

For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Matthew 7:14


499 posted on 04/27/2015 10:16:09 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

Yes, just how many Muslims are there?


500 posted on 04/27/2015 10:38:13 AM PDT by MamaB
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