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To: Mrs. Don-o; Boogieman
... They glorify God. And that makes the demons tremble.

They glorify personalities. And that makes the demons tremble gleefully party.

Roman Catholicism is a cult of personalities...

91 posted on 04/20/2015 4:15:58 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: WVKayaker; Boogieman
"They glorify personalities. And that makes the demons tremble gleefully party.

Your view seems to take insufficient notice of many precious promises in Scripture.

St. Paul says (Romans 2:6, 10), "God will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good work,... there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek."

This is not stealing glory from God, but rather it manifests God's freedom to give glory to those on whom His favor rests. This is a derivative glory, like the light of the moon, which is not independent, but beautifully reflects the light of the sun.

It's also a matter of inheriting glory as joint heirs with Christ:

(Romans 8:16-18): "The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit
that we are children of God,
and if children, then heirs,
heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ
if only we suffer with him
so that we may also be glorified with him."

"I consider that the sufferings of this present time
are as nothing
compared with the glory to be revealed for us."

(Romans 8:30) And those he predestined he also called; and those he called he also justified; and those he justified he also glorified.

Paul says the true Israelites were rightly glorified:

Romans 9:4
"They are Israelites; theirs the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises."

Paul himself claims this glory:

Romans 11:13
"Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I glory in my ministry in my ministry."

And Paul goes on to explain that in all this, GOD is glorified:

Romans 11:36
For from him and through him and for him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen

This is what we are taking about. Look again at the quote above. This is about all believers. Amen?

117 posted on 04/20/2015 4:45:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: WVKayaker; Boogieman
"Roman Catholicism is a cult of personalities..."

Why, thank you! That's really true, as long as you understand "cult" to mean "devotional group" and "of personalities" to mean "comprising all the members of the Communion of Saints."

A devotional group comprising all the members of the Communion of Saints. Oft thought but ne'er so well expressed.

290 posted on 04/21/2015 8:38:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, rose before God from the hand of the angel)
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