An analogy: I once read with great interest a short book called "The Trail of Blood"
Your analogy is faulty if the issue is what RCs teach, which is what the poster responded to ("Nobody thinks that the saints...."), and what he cited does not present a false description about Marian devotion, nor a distorted picture of the Church since she allows such to abound, and which even comes from popes, as overall they are not seen to contradict official statements.
when comparing doctrines, the first thing you want to determine is whether the proposition or text you are discussing is actually a doctrine.
But when responding to statements, the first thing you want to determine is what the text you are discussing is actually referring to, which in thus case was in regard to the "Nobody thinks" how saints in heaven act, not what is officially taught. Which itself is subject to interpretation by RCs.
my advice would be to stick with authoritative summaries of doctrine, e.g. the Catechism. Or to ask a knowledgeable Catholic, "What do you mean by this?" with the expectation of a good-faith explanation.
CCC statements was not the issue, but what knowledgeable Catholics say about Mary. Changing the subject will not change that.
"Nobody thinks that the saints in heaven act as independent agents, dispensing favors by their own power or piety, apart from Christ Our Lord."
It was a mistake for me to use the word "nobody," since it can be falsified by a single person who holds this erroneous position. That probably led this discussion down a rabbit trail. My bad; sorry.
What I ought to have said, is that this is what the Catholic Church calls heresy.
BTW, I have seen more expressions of individual and group vilificaion on this thread, than I have seen ever before on the FRRF. (No, not all from one side, and no, I can't tabulate that.) I think it's become a "near occasion of sin", as people are tempted to completely lose patience and charity. I accuse nobody by name or by group: it seems to be all too pervasive.
So I'm going off to work on my parish newsletter, which have been negligently putting aside for several days now.
I said my Rosary this morning for your well-being and redemption, daniel1212, and that of everybody on this forum.
Peace to you.