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To: Eucharista

Yes, I know. You worship the Roman Catholic Church and/or Catholicism.

Whether you continue with the blustering and repetitious spouting of your dogma and perverted history of your cult, as you have agreed it can be called, or whether you bring anything other than your present hardline/hard-headed/I-don’t-care-what-you-think-I’m-an-RC approach to this forum for Christians, as other RCs have in the past, remains to be proven to us all.

Some of us are contending against the likes of you for the Christian faith as established only by Lord Jesus Christ upon Himself and are not granting an unhindered tyrannical usurpation of the freedoms Christians have in Christ alone, or our freedom to post on FR.

The RCC, however many times you may repeat your own religion’s hook points, is not that Church that Jesus founded. Maybe once it was, in some part, but history (Rev 1-3) and the Spirit indicate not anymore.


397 posted on 04/21/2015 1:17:10 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero; EagleOne; CynicalBear; metmom
Very interesting post here. The RCC is NOT the church Christ founded. period. The church Jesus founded was The Kingdom Church, made up of "the nation (SINGULAR) bringing forth the fruits thereof" (Matt. 2:43). This NATION consisted of the Apostles and the "little flock" of Christ's followers. (Luke 12:32). And who were the leaders of this Kingdom Church? Matt. 19:28 makes it clear that it was to be centralized in the 12 apostles.

Which is what the book of Acts is about from Chapter 1 through Chapter 8. And what happened to that Kingdom Church? Acts 28 tells us. It was set aside, Israel was set aside, and the Kingdom Church was postponed until Israel comes to Christ, the tribulation.

So where are WE, the Gentiles, in this story? Acts 9 and forward through Romans through Philemon tells us. We are the Church the Body of Christ. NOT made up of a NATION, but made up of believers who are neither Jew nor Gentile in God's eye, but a new man, save by the blood of Christ and God's grace. Ours is a heavenly inheritance, hid in God BEFORE the foundation of the earth, as opposed to the Kingdom Church and Israel whose inheritance is earthly, PROPHESIED SINCE the world began.

SO...how can we tell this is the order of our history, the Body of Christ?

Galatians 2:2,9. "And I went up by revelation (to Jerusalem) and communicated unto them THAT GOSPEL which I PREACH AMONG THE GENTILES, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain."

"And when JAMES, CEPHAS< and JOHN, who seemed to be pillars, PERCEIVED THE GRACE THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME, they GAVE TO ME and BARNABAS the right hands of fellowship; THAT WE SHOULD GO UNTO THE HEATHEN, AND THEY UNTO THE CIRCUMCISION."

So what does that mean? It means that Peter and the 11, by a solemn agreement, who had originally been sent into "ALL THE WORLD" and to "EVERY CREATURE", now promised to CONFINE THEIR MINISTRY TO ISRAEL WHILE PAUL WENT TO THE GENTILES.

Were these leaders out of the will of God in making this agreement? NO! They LOOSED THEMSELVES from the "Great Commission" given to them by Christ. And what they loosed on earth was loosed in heaven. And they were very much in the will of GOd, both in loosing themselves from their commission to evangelize the world and in agreeing that Paul should go to the Gentiles, for Israel's rejection of Christ had brought about a change in the prophetic program.

And this here is where the RCC collapses. By their own arguments there can be no apostolic succession, for by the authority given Peter and the 11, they LOOSED THEMSELVES from their obligation to carry out the "great commission" to its completion and recognized Paul as the apostle of the dispensation of the grace of God. "Prophecy" gave way to "the mystery" of God's purpose and grace. AMEN.

453 posted on 04/21/2015 3:44:05 PM PDT by smvoice (There are no prizes given for defending the indefensible.)
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