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[Response to 2013 WSJ article] Cultural Catholicism and the End of Life: “You Earned It”
309 words of Wall Street Journal article posted on triablogue Blogspot ^ | Wall Street Journal August 29, 2013 : blog on August 30, 2013 | by PAUL MOSES Wall Street Journal copied by John Bugay

Posted on 04/17/2015 12:12:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7

I’ve mentioned that Roman Catholicism is so onerous because it puts its hooks in you at various times in your life – from baptism as a child, to “first confession” and “first holy communion”, then Confirmation as an early teen, then marriage, baptism of your own children, etc. It’s a programmatic cycle.

There is another point at which Rome is prominent, and that is at death. As the “Baby Boom” generation continues to age and die, people will continue to be focused on this phase of life, either as people focused on the end of their own lives, or that of their aging parents.

Paul Moses, a journalism professor at Brooklyn College/CUNY”, has written a piece for the Wall Street Journal this morning entitled “A Liberal Catholic and Staying Put”, which puts this in view.

Beginning the article with some comments from the atheistic “Freedom From Religion Foundation”, which urged discontented, liberal-minded Catholics to “Summon your fortitude, and just go”, he rejects this notion with the following comments:

To me, these invitations reflect a shallow view of the Catholic Church that reduces its complex journey to the points where it intersects with the liberal social agenda. Pope Francis’ pastoral approach has shown a more merciful, less judgmental face of the church—one that always existed but needed to be more prominent in the public arena.

After my father died last year, I realized that my instinctive resistance to these “just go” arguments—from the atheists, the secularists, the orthodox, the heterodox or anyone else—runs deep. It began when I observed how impressively the church was there for me in a moment of need (emphasis added).

This is where the programmatic structure of Roman Catholicism vis–à–vis human life comes into play. And while Moses accuses the “atheists, secularists, orthodox, heterodox, and anyone else” of having a “shallow” view of “the Catholic Church”, here basically is a basically shallow and un-engaged liberal New York professor coming into touch with the ritual shallowness of “the Church” and liking it.

Early on the morning after he died, I went to my father's parish, St. Peter's in lower Manhattan, to find out what to do to bury him. I found one of the priests in the sacristy after the early Mass. The Rev. Alex Joseph took my hands in his, spoke a beautiful prayer, told me of his own father's death years earlier and added, "Our fathers are always with us." I was much moved.

Given Professor Moses’s credentials, both as a professor and as a Roman Catholic, I found myself wondering why he would be first of all surprised, and then “much moved” by such a shallow and basically universalist statement by the priest “our fathers are always with us”. It seems to me that this priest was hedging his bets.

For any of you pastors who have had to attend at funerals of non-believers, you are probably aware of the difficulties of addressing this situation.

In Moses’s case, his father was a life-long Roman Catholic.

We decided to have my father's funeral in the Staten Island parish where he had worshiped for 25 years … Bernard L. Moses, who died at 88, had loved Father Madigan’s homilies, and to hear [Father Madigan] speak at the funeral Mass was to understand why. My father had advanced up the ranks of the New York City Housing Authority to director of management. Citing his concern for tenants, Father Madigan used the traditional Catholic term “corporal work of mercy” to describe what my father did. It explained for me, in those difficult moments, why my father, who was well-schooled in Catholic social teachings, had passed up the opportunity for a more pleasant career in academia, or a more lucrative one managing private housing, to work in housing projects instead.

Again, Moses is surprised by the motivations behind his own father’s career choices – that his father’s position in the liberal government program is reinforced by “Catholic social teachings”. The father’s life was spent first of all on “the sacramental treadmill” on Sundays, then during the week, doing government-sponsored “corporal works of mercy” was enough to get him into heaven, under the liberal Roman Catholic schema.

If we wonder why the United States can so willingly adopt the liberal agenda, this is one great and largely invisible source of power for that engine.

This article reminded me of something quite the opposite, related by J.I. Packer in his “A Quest for Godliness: The Puritan Vision of the Christian Life”. Packer said:

Few of us, I think, live daily on the edge of eternity in the conscious way that the Puritans did, and we lose out as a result. For the extraordinary vivacity, even hilarity (yes, hilarity; you will find it in the sources), with which the Puritans lived stemmed directly, I believe, from the unflinching, matter-of-fact realism with which they prepared themselves for death, so as always to be found, as it were, packed up and ready to go (emphasis added). Reckoning with death brought appreciation of each day’s continued life, and the knowledge that God would eventually decide, without consulting them, when their work on earth was done brought energy for the work itself while they were still being given time to get on with it (pg 14).

The Roman Catholic system is an on-going treadmill that in no way takes into account the realities of God’s Biblical Revelation – neither the joys of it, nor the realities – but rather, wraps itself around its own processes and the false salve of “you earned it” to the dying and reassurance that “you can still earn it” to shallow, unthinking liberal Roman Catholics like the professor Paul Moses.


TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: death; liberalism; tradition
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
>>No, the "ekklesia" is not an invisible body of believers, but a visible Body, instituted by Christ, with the Authority to teach and discipline in His name.<<

Who ever said it was? Or is that some type of obfuscation to divert? The individual ekklesia (assemblies) are indeed visible. I would suppose you would not deny that the Catholic Church claims their so called saints are part of the "church" right? Are they visible?

301 posted on 04/20/2015 8:56:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CTrent1564
>>No a maiden does not mean virgin,<<

A "maiden" was an unmarried young woman. Are you saying they were not virgins?

302 posted on 04/20/2015 8:58:36 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear; ealgeone

And here is a quick link, the reason I linked it is because it cites the debate between Saint Justin Martyr and The Jews of his time, particulary, a Jewish Scholar named Trypo. This debate can be accessed at the Protestant site CCEL or the Catholic one Newadvent. Regardless, the Jews circa 150AD did not view the Hebrew word almah to mean virgin and clearly rejected the Greek LXX use of the word parthenos which clearly means virgin, which is the way the Hellenstic Jews translated almah in the LXX version of the OT.

http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/17042/does-isaiah-714-refer-to-a-virgin


303 posted on 04/20/2015 8:59:48 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564; ealgeone
>>In all honesty, I expected more from you two than retort to “cult claims”.<<

Truth says we call a spade a spade and we call a cult a cult.

304 posted on 04/20/2015 9:02:50 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

CynicalBear:

Ok fair enough but if you are going to use those terms, I will have to ask you not to post to me again at all. I will no longer post to you. I am not going to discuss anything with anyone who uses those terms.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation in this manner.


305 posted on 04/20/2015 9:11:59 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564; ealgeone
Let's look at a quote from your referenced site.

"without excluding a possibility that the young woman might be a virgin."

Now, when we take all of the scriptural references to Mary we understand she was a virgin don't we. The Catholic propensity to focus on just one verse leads to all kinds of errors.

306 posted on 04/20/2015 9:13:29 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CTrent1564

If you post false interpretations of scripture I will post to refute them. Count on it.


307 posted on 04/20/2015 9:15:00 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

see post 305. No more comments


308 posted on 04/20/2015 9:15:46 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CynicalBear

no, you will refute what you think is false. Again, no comment on the matter again and I respectfully ask you not to post me in the future on any subject.

Thanks again for your cooperation in this manner


309 posted on 04/20/2015 9:24:08 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564; CynicalBear
ealgeone:

Ok, you have a problem with Saint Jerome.

No, I have a problem with you calling him the greatest ever and then having to change your story.

310 posted on 04/20/2015 9:59:22 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

ealgeone:

It is my opinion he was, and I provided evidence for why I made that claim. If you have a candidate who you think is better, propose who you think it is.


311 posted on 04/20/2015 10:33:49 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: ealgeone

And I still stand by that claim that he was in fact the best biblical scholar in the history of the Church.


312 posted on 04/20/2015 10:34:34 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: ealgeone

And here is the Newadvent biography of Saint Jerome. At the beginning of the 10th paragraph, I believe, the sentence begins “To Sum up his Biblical Knowledge of Saint Jerome ranks him first among ancient biblical exegetes.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08341a.htm


313 posted on 04/20/2015 11:16:09 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CynicalBear
Changed God's words to fit a "doctrine" rather than form the doctrine to fit God's word!!! Do you even realize what you just said there? What is striking is that seems to be ok with you.

That was a clear admission of what we knew all along.

314 posted on 04/20/2015 11:33:57 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CTrent1564

You opinion is not necessarily a fact.


315 posted on 04/20/2015 11:37:54 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
>>That was a clear admission of what we knew all along.<<

Something I thought I would never see. I'm thinking it was a slip up. True non the less.

316 posted on 04/20/2015 11:51:53 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CTrent1564

No it wasn’t and in fact Protestants and Evangelicals condemned the KKK in the 1920’s.

Notice many of the KKK accusations have been removed by the mods.

Rewriting history is pretty much a must for Catholicism.


317 posted on 04/20/2015 12:03:49 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY mediator between God and man)
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To: CTrent1564; CynicalBear
"It is usual for the sacred historian to conform himself to the generally accepted opinion of the masses in his time" (P.L., XXVI, 98; XXIV, 855).

This is scary.....

318 posted on 04/20/2015 12:34:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Syncro

Syncro:

Nonsense, The KKK was tied to American Protestant Christianity. The ones that condemned it were what you FR prots here call the Liberal mainline Protestants.

There was a Catholic Priest in Alabama around 1925 that was murdered by a Pastor of a Protestant Church who as a KKK member.


319 posted on 04/20/2015 12:36:38 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: ealgeone

ealgeone:

No sure the context of the quote you are writing. The article I gave you was longer than that quote.


320 posted on 04/20/2015 12:37:45 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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