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[Response to 2013 WSJ article] Cultural Catholicism and the End of Life: “You Earned It”
309 words of Wall Street Journal article posted on triablogue Blogspot ^ | Wall Street Journal August 29, 2013 : blog on August 30, 2013 | by PAUL MOSES Wall Street Journal copied by John Bugay

Posted on 04/17/2015 12:12:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
>>No, the "ekklesia" is not an invisible body of believers, but a visible Body, instituted by Christ, with the Authority to teach and discipline in His name.<<

Who ever said it was? Or is that some type of obfuscation to divert? The individual ekklesia (assemblies) are indeed visible. I would suppose you would not deny that the Catholic Church claims their so called saints are part of the "church" right? Are they visible?

301 posted on 04/20/2015 8:56:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CTrent1564
>>No a maiden does not mean virgin,<<

A "maiden" was an unmarried young woman. Are you saying they were not virgins?

302 posted on 04/20/2015 8:58:36 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear; ealgeone

And here is a quick link, the reason I linked it is because it cites the debate between Saint Justin Martyr and The Jews of his time, particulary, a Jewish Scholar named Trypo. This debate can be accessed at the Protestant site CCEL or the Catholic one Newadvent. Regardless, the Jews circa 150AD did not view the Hebrew word almah to mean virgin and clearly rejected the Greek LXX use of the word parthenos which clearly means virgin, which is the way the Hellenstic Jews translated almah in the LXX version of the OT.

http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/17042/does-isaiah-714-refer-to-a-virgin


303 posted on 04/20/2015 8:59:48 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564; ealgeone
>>In all honesty, I expected more from you two than retort to “cult claims”.<<

Truth says we call a spade a spade and we call a cult a cult.

304 posted on 04/20/2015 9:02:50 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

CynicalBear:

Ok fair enough but if you are going to use those terms, I will have to ask you not to post to me again at all. I will no longer post to you. I am not going to discuss anything with anyone who uses those terms.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation in this manner.


305 posted on 04/20/2015 9:11:59 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564; ealgeone
Let's look at a quote from your referenced site.

"without excluding a possibility that the young woman might be a virgin."

Now, when we take all of the scriptural references to Mary we understand she was a virgin don't we. The Catholic propensity to focus on just one verse leads to all kinds of errors.

306 posted on 04/20/2015 9:13:29 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CTrent1564

If you post false interpretations of scripture I will post to refute them. Count on it.


307 posted on 04/20/2015 9:15:00 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

see post 305. No more comments


308 posted on 04/20/2015 9:15:46 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CynicalBear

no, you will refute what you think is false. Again, no comment on the matter again and I respectfully ask you not to post me in the future on any subject.

Thanks again for your cooperation in this manner


309 posted on 04/20/2015 9:24:08 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564; CynicalBear
ealgeone:

Ok, you have a problem with Saint Jerome.

No, I have a problem with you calling him the greatest ever and then having to change your story.

310 posted on 04/20/2015 9:59:22 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

ealgeone:

It is my opinion he was, and I provided evidence for why I made that claim. If you have a candidate who you think is better, propose who you think it is.


311 posted on 04/20/2015 10:33:49 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: ealgeone

And I still stand by that claim that he was in fact the best biblical scholar in the history of the Church.


312 posted on 04/20/2015 10:34:34 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: ealgeone

And here is the Newadvent biography of Saint Jerome. At the beginning of the 10th paragraph, I believe, the sentence begins “To Sum up his Biblical Knowledge of Saint Jerome ranks him first among ancient biblical exegetes.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08341a.htm


313 posted on 04/20/2015 11:16:09 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CynicalBear
Changed God's words to fit a "doctrine" rather than form the doctrine to fit God's word!!! Do you even realize what you just said there? What is striking is that seems to be ok with you.

That was a clear admission of what we knew all along.

314 posted on 04/20/2015 11:33:57 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CTrent1564

You opinion is not necessarily a fact.


315 posted on 04/20/2015 11:37:54 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
>>That was a clear admission of what we knew all along.<<

Something I thought I would never see. I'm thinking it was a slip up. True non the less.

316 posted on 04/20/2015 11:51:53 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CTrent1564

No it wasn’t and in fact Protestants and Evangelicals condemned the KKK in the 1920’s.

Notice many of the KKK accusations have been removed by the mods.

Rewriting history is pretty much a must for Catholicism.


317 posted on 04/20/2015 12:03:49 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY mediator between God and man)
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To: CTrent1564; CynicalBear
"It is usual for the sacred historian to conform himself to the generally accepted opinion of the masses in his time" (P.L., XXVI, 98; XXIV, 855).

This is scary.....

318 posted on 04/20/2015 12:34:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Syncro

Syncro:

Nonsense, The KKK was tied to American Protestant Christianity. The ones that condemned it were what you FR prots here call the Liberal mainline Protestants.

There was a Catholic Priest in Alabama around 1925 that was murdered by a Pastor of a Protestant Church who as a KKK member.


319 posted on 04/20/2015 12:36:38 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: ealgeone

ealgeone:

No sure the context of the quote you are writing. The article I gave you was longer than that quote.


320 posted on 04/20/2015 12:37:45 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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