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To: terycarl

Actually the dogma of Papal Infallibility has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus nor is based on anything which can be found in the Bible. The dogma was instituted rather late in Church History, the late 1800s. Here was it said in Wikipedia.com:

Pope Pius IX-—”During his pontificate, he convened the First Vatican Council (1869-70), which decreed papal infallibility, but the council was cut short due to the loss of the Papal States.”

“Pius IX defined the dogma of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary, meaning Mary was conceived without original sin.”

Sorry to annoy you with the facts. I believe in most Catholic teachings but I never knew that in order to be a member of the Church, you had to agree with each and every single doctrine or dogma without question. That type of rigidity and unquestioning is indeed a very scary and authoritarian—even totalitarian mindset which would make it tantamount to a cult.


53 posted on 04/17/2015 9:22:20 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; terycarl
>>I believe in most Catholic teachings but I never knew that in order to be a member of the Church, you had to agree with each and every single doctrine or dogma without question.<<

Submit will and intellect is what Catholic Catechism says.

Canon 752: “While the assent of faith is not required, a religious submission of intellect and will is to be given to any doctrine which either the Supreme Pontiff or the College of Bishops, exercising their authentic Magisterium, declare upon a matter of faith or morals, even though they do not intend to proclaim that doctrine by definitive act. Christ's faithful are therefore to ensure that they avoid whatever does not accord with that doctrine.”

Canon 753: “While not infallible in their teaching, [Catholic bishops] are the authentic instructors and teachers of the faith for Christ's faithful entrusted to their care. The faithful are bound to adhere, with a religious submission of mind, to this authentic Magisterium of their Bishops.”

Whatever they say you must submit! Cult? You betcha.

54 posted on 04/17/2015 9:29:36 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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