[Alex Murphy]

Doesn't that put [bishops who refuse to excommunicate pro-abort pols] in de-facto schism? Seriously, if they're outlaws they're rebels, what makes them more legit than (for instance) SSPX bishops? It is all a legal fiction where we pretend to ignore the heretical elephant in the room? I know, I know, the elephant is actually schismatic but I think he's an heretic too.

We talk about automatic-excommunication for pro abort pols that isn't enforced, is there a situation of automatic-excommunication for bishops who are no longer (in any reasonable use of the term) in communion with the bishop of Rome? I realize this basically plunges us into a state of anarchy in the Church but isn't that really what's going on anyhow?

I don't see any way around it. What percentage of the Catholic Church is actually in schism?

[Legatus]

I don't see any way around it. What percentage of the Catholic Church is actually in schism?

Well during the Arian crisis 75% of the Church was in schism at one point in time or another, I think things may be worse now.