Posted on 04/10/2015 6:19:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
Otherwise, yeah, it's nuts with whipped feigned Catholicism on top just like dealing with Pelosi and others who claim to be Catholic but who have publicly stated that they follow the same Self and Self Alone doctrine the anti-Catholic crew preaches.
Over the centuries, other than the few people who have been excommunicated...the Catholic church rejects NOONE...period.
well, that is the protestant point of view...and it is wrong....Christ established the Catholic church, not the church of what's happening now which happens to call itself Christian....and that's a fact.
“Over the centuries, other than the few people who have been excommunicated...the Catholic church rejects NOONE...period. “
The church refused to give them communion, so they considered that to be rejected and went somewhere else more welcoming and less hateful.
A person is denied Communion because they are living in a state of unrepenyant sin...adultry
Men don't annul a marriage...they investigate the conditions concerning the marriage and make a judgement as to whether or not it was properly entered into. Was one or the other previously married, are they related, were they physically able to consummate the marriage, were they both open to having children, were there and legal situations present which would prevent their union, were either of them coerced into the marriage....it is, or always should be, a simple judgement as to whether or not the marriage was properly conducted.
I gloss over NOTHING...in 2,000 years, there certainly have to be some questions raised about whatever...I merely stated that the church has handled EVERY ONE of the questions in accordance with biblical truth, time tested tradition, and interpretations which she has been given the authority by Christ to make.
I said: “The church Christ is speaking of is HIS church composed of all believers in Him. This is not an earthly church but HIS heavenly church of believers.”
You said: “well, that is the ‘protestant point of view...and it is wrong’....Christ established the Catholic church, not the church of what’s happening now which happens to call itself Christian....and that’s a fact.”
I said it and I’m a Catholic. Too bad you think only Catholics are His Church. At the time Christ comes to receive His Church in the air, including perhaps you, get ready to see ALL those who believe in Jesus Christ, in the air with you - Baptists/Presbyterians/Methodist, etc./non Denominational/and those in no formal church. All believers are the Bride of Jesus Christ.
Jesus said there are many mansions in heaven and I hope to at least qualify for a duplex. :o)
Don’t bother to try to argue with me because I don’t care what you think and won’t respond to you again. I have been a Bible student since I was a child. I find my Catholic friends are not too studied in the Bible.
If you know about it, it wasn't much of a clandestine situation was it???....hard to sneak when the world knows about it.
There was no photo of her, nor was her name revealed.
Next stupid question?
"divorced" and "remarried" people are living in a state of adultry....do you really think that the church should deny her teachings and grant them communion when they are intentionally violating Christ's admonition against addultry????
you say they left and went somewhere else less "hateful"...do you consider being concerned for someones eternal destiny is hateful???
you do not go through life changing Christ's teachings to suit your own needs and consider yourself justified........on the other hand, many on this thread do exactly that...PATHETIC
When someone spreads slander about a Bishop or the Pope, though, the anti-Catholic crowd and the "with friends like these" crowd take whatever negative trash the media spoon feeds them as absolute fact.
Got a recording of that phone conversation?
Why did you feel it necessary to pose the hypothetical situation in the first place....WHO CARES???
Uhhhhhh, then why did He establish the Catholic church and promise to be with her until the end of time???
was it so that individuals, over the years, could decide that they knew better than He did as to what Christianity meant...probably not.
The situation was not hypothetical. And by the fact that you don’t “care”, you sound like Hillary and Bengazi.
Since when have facts become slander?
Do you have a recording of Bergoglio or Lombardi denying the content of the phone call?
Sooner or later, folks being hosed realize the rain maker ain't what he claims to be.
As far as I'm concerned, see ya' later, "rain maker"
Mark 10 states it this way: 10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”
Is that the true stipulation - that the one who actually does the divorcing is the one committing adultery?
Luke is the only one who expanded the explanation, but one must consider it to be true.
Last question for this topic. How is adultery different than breaking any of the other commandments while living under the New Covenant? Jesus died for all our sins, past/present/future. God told us that when He made the New Covenant, He would: "...forgive your wickedness and recognize your sins no more". Why, if one can "prepare himself for Communion by going to Confession and repenting, even though he will be committing the same sins tomorrow and the next day, etc., why can one who is divorced and remarried also confess, do the prescribed rosaries, and receive Communion?
Thanks again for your penchant for politeness and patience when helping to explain my questions/sense of confliction with my personal beliefs.
If men don't annul marriage, how does their interaction/judgement result in it being nullified? How does their interaction at the ceremony cement a marriage in the first place? What is the difference in a marriage by the Justice of the Peace and one conducted by a priest if they both use the same phraseology? Isn't the true marriage conducted within the hearts of those being married?
“I gloss over NOTHING...”
... except glossing over your glossing over!
Perhaps if you repeat it louder with more CAPS.
My divorce left me with understating, first hand. Pelosi, Biden among others receiving communion also leaves me with an understanding. Do you understand?
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