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To: Dutchboy88
I'm sorry that see your mother as a minor player in your life. If not for my mother and father, I would not be here. They undoubtedly have been major players in my life. I honor and love them. Frankly, I can't fathom how any Christian can say that Mary had a minor role in Jesus' life. He was fully man and as such he had a relationship with his mother and earthly step-father - just as any man except that he was without sin.

Yes, the gospel is all about Jesus. However, there are special people in Jesus' life. Jesus has a unique relationship with Mary. She is His mother.

Is it possible that you see Jesus only as God but marginalize His humanity?

74 posted on 04/07/2015 2:25:47 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord
Well, not sure what you mean by, "...see Jesus as God but marginalize His humanity?" I see Jesus as fully God and fully Man. He is the "hypostatic union of the The/anthropic person". He is now glorified in heaven, seated at the right hand of the Father.

But, it seems that unless one is overly hooked on His mother...not Jesus Himself...that you seem concerned for them. But, Jesus saved His mother from her desperate sins, sins as dark as mine and yours. She is no more divine than any human and certainly felt at a point that her Son was not worth listening to (read the text). But, many Catholics hold her in way too much esteem. Examples:

Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION. Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To thee, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

Do you subscribe to these same views of Mary?

106 posted on 04/07/2015 5:19:25 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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