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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
"The Mana provided to the Israelites was made by God. The Catholic Communion Wafer does not appear on the ground by God’s command. It is made by the hand of man."

I see what you're saying here, really I do.

But Catholics would argue that when it is consecrated, there is a triple miracle:

Now, that's kinda hard to explain (scratches head) and the terms "substance" and "accidents" are used in a specialized philosophical sense (which is pretty much out of my league)--- but not to get tangled up in a buncha words, the point is that what we receive in Communion is not that host that came out of a cardboard box from the "Host Supply Inc, Makers of Fine Hosts Since 1962" --- that's been annihilated ---but rather, what we're receiving is Himself.

Or to put it in even simpler terms:

He says "This is My Body."

We say, "Amen."

That's it.

477 posted on 04/11/2015 5:31:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

So what do Catholics do about the Scripture verse that talks about Christ dwelling in our hearts through faith and that God does not dwell in temples made by human hands but in us, who are the temple of the Holy Spirit?

Since He’s in us already through faith, then what’s the point of ingesting Him?


480 posted on 04/11/2015 5:40:18 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well, I’d accept the argument if the source of all of the “host” was from a young boy’s lunch basket initially containing five loaves and two fish.

It seems to me too many on all sides of the argument fail to focus on The One.

It’s not just Catholics. My wife was once a fan of “Osteen.” She woke up when I pointed out he had a “globe” made from the “O” in his name as his background (a lot like Oprah?). She enjoyed his “feel good” message which lacked Biblical foundation. Once I pointed out the obvious flaws she looked deeper and stopped watching him. Victoria Osteen’s antics helped speed the process.


489 posted on 04/11/2015 5:57:20 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
But Catholics would argue that when it is consecrated, there is a triple miracle:

The substance of the wheaten host is entirely gone, zot, not there;

I'd like to see a Catholic take a consecrated host down to a local lab and have it analyzed...

507 posted on 04/11/2015 7:15:25 PM PDT by Iscool
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