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To: omegatoo; CynicalBear

God did not "command" David or Solomon either to build a house (Temple> for Himself (God).

As for "and use of lamps, etc." those God did direct or command to be built, along with God having given detailed instructions for the Tabernacle --- which was big tent-like affair.

Myself here copying from this page http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/1007.htm

2 Samuel 7:4-7 God's response to David's offer.

But it happened that night that the word of the Lord came to Nathan, saying, "Go and tell My servant David, 'Thus says the Lord: "Would you build a house for Me to dwell in? For I have not dwelt in a house since the time that I brought the children of Israel up from Egypt, even to this day, but have moved about in a tent and in a tabernacle. Wherever I have moved about with all the children of Israel, have I ever spoken a word to anyone from the tribes of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people Israel, saying, 'Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?'

Can you see how God did not there command the building of a temple for Himself? God was not asking David to do so, either.

The discussion at the link from a handful of theologians is gentle, and accurate enough appraisal.

Among what touches upon this issue, which had come from the Lord when David himself first had the idea that he would build a house for the Lord;

1 Chronicles 22

8 but the word of the Lord came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have made great wars; you shall not build a house for My name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in My sight. 9 Behold, a son shall be born to you, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies all around. His name shall be Solomon,[a] for I will give peace and quietness to Israel in his days. 10 He shall build a house for My name, and he shall be My son, and I will be his Father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.’

Notice there that God told David that David would not build a house (temple) for Himself, although giving David prophecy that Solomon would.

Years later, after no longer being at war with enemies of Israel all 'round, David seemed to have forgotten when he mentioned to the prophet Nathan that he desired to build a house for God. In reply, Nathan as it turns out, had at first too casually said to David "go ahead", which in a small way shows that prophets are not inerrant when they speak off the cuff, for later Nathan had to come back with a word from the Lord, telling him again the same which David had heard from the Lord, years previous, "you will not".

Yet too, it was David's idea and desire to build a house for the Lord. God prohibited David from doing so for reason that David was a man of war, but allowed that David's son Solomon would build a house (for God's name)--- yet still in these proceedings without having "commanded" anyone at any time to build for Himself a house, or temple.

As it all unfolds it does show the grace of the Lord though, for what does God do but tell David that He will appoint a place for Israel to dwell, and build a house for David instead. gottaloveit

2 Samuel 7 10-11

"Moreover I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own and move no more; nor shall the sons of wickedness oppress them anymore, as previously, since the time that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel, and have caused you to rest from all your enemies. Also the Lord tells you that He will make you a house."

The Lord speaking through Isaiah 66 1-2 reminds us;

The following, from Acts 6, and Acts 7 need be read in full context to gain full import; Acts 6

8 And Stephen, full of faith[b] and power, did great wonders and signs among the people. 9 Then there arose some from what is called the Synagogue of the Freedmen (Cyrenians, Alexandrians, and those from Cilicia and Asia), disputing with Stephen. 10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the Spirit by which he spoke. 11 Then they secretly induced men to say, “We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses and God.” 12 And they stirred up the people, the elders, and the scribes; and they came upon him, seized him, and brought him to the council. 13 They also set up false witnesses who said, “This man does not cease to speak blasphemous[c] words against this holy place and the law; 14 for we have heard him say that this Jesus of Nazareth will destroy this place and change the customs which Moses delivered to us.” 15 And all who sat in the council, looking steadfastly at him, saw his face as the face of an angel.

Stephen addressing his accusers in the synagogue Acts 7

I do hope the above addresses a few of the issues which which you had raised, there being within the texts themselves which I have provided link for.

62 posted on 04/18/2015 3:36:51 AM PDT by BlueDragon (a ship in the harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are for...)
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To: BlueDragon; omegatoo

Catholics like to put their God in a box. It’s evidenced in the lives of many Catholics. The go to “church” to get God.


65 posted on 04/18/2015 6:54:06 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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