Tribulation is tribulation. Surely you understand that there are different levels and intensities of tribulation. The Greek word translated "tribulation" is also translated "distress" and persecution and affliction. That can come from many sources including oneself.
>>The day of wrath is one day.<<
No, it's not. I can't imagine how anyone would think the wrath of God evidenced by the events described in Revelation would all happen in one day.
>>Plus, those words are spoken while the tribulation has already been underway for years<<
Post your evidence for that please.
“Tribulation is tribulation. Surely you understand that there are different levels and intensities of tribulation. The Greek word translated “tribulation” is also translated “distress” and persecution and affliction. That can come from many sources including oneself.”
Yet it is never translated as wrath, which is what you are asking us to conflate it with. If that is the length that you have to twist Scripture to justify your doctrine, that should be a clue that your doctrine is not supportable.
“No, it’s not. I can’t imagine how anyone would think the wrath of God evidenced by the events described in Revelation would all happen in one day.”
God called it a day, and why shouldn’t we believe it is one day? He calls it a day, not just in Revelation, but throughout the Old and New Testaments, for example, Zechariah 14 is very clear that this is one day, although it may not be a typical 24 hour day, since it is said to be “neither day nor night”, as if the normal illumination of the heavens is changed for this day:
“1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.”
As you can see, verse 7 clearly tells us this “will be one day”, so the onus is on you to prove that what God says about this day is incorrect and your interpretation is better.
“Post your evidence for that please.”
Certainly. The same signs mentioned in Rev. 6 are also mentioned in other descriptions of the tribulation period, which pinpoint exactly when it occurs:
“24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.”
Matthew 13:24-26
So, the day when the sun is darkened and the moon gives no light, and the world sees Christ in his glory in the clouds is AFTER the tribulation.
We can also see that the great earthquake mentioned in Rev. 6 is mentioned in more detail in Rev. 16:
“18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.”
This chapter clearly places the earthquake at Christ’s return, when he destroys the armies of the Earth gathered near Jerusalem. It matches up well with Zech. 14 that I cited above, which tells us that it is Christ himself touching his foot on the Mount of Olives which causes the earthquake and the division of Jerusalem:
“4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.”