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To: Grateful2God
I get that post Vatican II Catholics seem to think that the Church started in 1965/anything prior to 1965 is "old news", but Pope Pius IX made it absolutely clear that we should not entertain "good hope" for the salvation of those outside the Catholic Church. Good hope is not the same thing as recognizing that in rare instances God can allow it, in instances where someone had a desire for baptism and/or perfect contrition before death.

Thanks to the modernism that has creeped into the Church via Vatican II (and is now full steam ahead), most Catholics seem to think that we can hope that these non-Catholics will be saved. No, we can not.

152 posted on 04/02/2015 2:21:05 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv
I get that post Vatican II Catholics seem to think that the Church started in 1965/anything prior to 1965 is "old news",

Not so. Each Council, each encyclical is based upon the others. In the instance I cited, gigantic, tragic circumstances took place and could not be ignored; just as when, I honestly do not recall which Pope, promulgated assn encyclical in favor of the Jews, denying theirs or anyone's group responsibility for the death of Jesus. We are all, as children of Adam with original sin (that of Mary, was taken from her soul prior to her conception in her mother's womb. That is why, although she is the Immaculate Conception, she refers to God as her Savior.)


but Pope Pius IX made it absolutely clear that we should not entertain "good hope" for the salvation of those outside the Catholic Church. Good hope is not the same thing as recognizing that in rare instances God can allow it, in instances where someone had a desire for baptism and/or perfect contrition before death. Thanks to the modernism that has creeped into the Church via Vatican II (and is now full steam ahead), most Catholics seem to think that we can hope that these non-Catholics will be saved. No, we can not.

Please read again what I posted. Do you honestly believe those killed in war fighting for just cause; the victims of holocaust and genocide are doomed to hell? Please read it again with them in mind. The worldview of the Church is available in verbatim documents online.

Good bless you!

167 posted on 04/03/2015 12:22:00 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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