Posted on 03/31/2015 2:42:14 PM PDT by RnMomof7
-—”They” who, Mackerel snapper??-—
“They” as in Protestants. Protestants prefer the term, “Christian.” But they spend all their time protesting the doctrines of the Catholic Church.
Some even seem bitter and angry at the Church.
Do you know what I mean?
What kind of "savior" misleads people like that? Being God, he knew how his words would be taken, remember.
I taught religion in a Catholic School in Kentucky not so long ago and had Southern Baptists students. It would never have crossed my mind to say or do anything that would undermine their faith in Jesus Christ. This was most important, so although I taught as I should what and why Catholics believe as they do, it was not my place to criticize their Protestant beliefs. I found out from one student in particular that a good and faithful Baptist is more catholic than many Catholics.
We should be careful about how we criticize each other, the unintended consequence might be that faith in the Father, Son,and Holy Spirit is weakened and not strengthened.
Francis of Assisi is quoted as saying “Preach the Gospel at all times and when necessary use words.”
Peace
Unfortunately the cracker god is not the
it doesn’t take long for those who honor with their lips, but not their heart to expose themselves.
but the Master instructs me to be glad and rejoice.........
God said.
2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.
which is clearly not His body
ah, seen the natural man it clearly is not his body.
a muslim, Mormon and Jehovah Witness will all agree with you the Eucharist is just bread.
Paul, Ignatius, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Cyril, Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine, the Orthodox, the Copts and the Catholics would all beg to disagree.
there is the little matter of faith.
if someone saw Jesus hanging on the cross and said he was just a man, the Muslim et al would agree.
to the Christian who has faith, they would see the Son of God.
faith my friend makes all the difference.
What you see on God’s altar, you’ve already observed during the night that has now ended. But you’ve heard nothing about just what it might be, or what it might mean, or what great thing it might be said to symbolize. For what you see is simply bread and a cup - this is the information your eyes report. But your faith demands far subtler insight: the bread is Christ’s body, the cup is Christ’s blood. Faith can grasp the fundamentals quickly, succinctly, yet it hungers for a fuller account of the matter. As the prophet says, “Unless you believe, you will not understand.” [Is. 7.9; Septuagint] So you can say to me, “You urged us to believe; now explain, so we can understand.” Inside each of you, thoughts like these are rising: “Our Lord Jesus Christ, we know the source of his flesh; he took it from the virgin Mary. Like any infant, he was nursed and nourished; he grew; became a youngster; suffered persecution from his own people. To the wood he was nailed; on the wood he died; from the wood, his body was taken down and buried. On the third day (as he willed) he rose; he ascended bodily into heaven whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. There he dwells even now, seated at God’s right. So how can bread be his body? And what about the cup? How can it (or what it contains) be his blood?” My friends, these realities are called sacraments because in them one thing is seen, while another is grasped. What is seen is a mere physical likeness; what is grasped bears spiritual fruit. So now, if you want to understand the body of Christ, listen to the Apostle Paul speaking to the faithful: “You are the body of Christ, member for member.” [1 Cor. 12.27] If you, therefore, are Christ’s body and members, it is your own mystery that is placed on the Lord’s table! It is your own mystery that you are receiving! You are saying “Amen” to what you are: your response is a personal signature, affirming your faith. When you hear “The body of Christ”, you reply “Amen.” Be a member of Christ’s body, then, so that your “Amen” may ring true! But what role does the bread play? We have no theory of our own to propose here; listen, instead, to what Paul says about this sacrament: “The bread is one, and we, though many, are one body.” [1 Cor. 10.17] Understand and rejoice: unity, truth, faithfulness, love. “One bread,” he says. What is this one bread? Is it not the “one body,” formed from many? Remember: bread doesn’t come from a single grain, but from many. When you received exorcism, you were “ground.” When you were baptized, you were “leavened.” When you received the fire of the Holy Spirit, you were “baked.” Be what you see; receive what you are. This is what Paul is saying about the bread. So too, what we are to understand about the cup is similar and requires little explanation. In the visible object of bread, many grains are gathered into one just as the faithful (so Scripture says) form “a single heart and mind in God” [Acts 4.32]. And thus it is with the wine. Remember, friends, how wine is made. Individual grapes hang together in a bunch, but the juice from them all is mingled to become a single brew. This is the image chosen by Christ our Lord to show how, at his own table, the mystery of our unity and peace is solemnly consecrated. All who fail to keep the bond of peace after entering this mystery receive not a sacrament that benefits them, but an indictment that condemns them. So let us give God our sincere and deepest gratitude, and, as far as human weakness will permit, let us turn to the Lord with pure hearts. With all our strength, let us seek God’s singular mercy, for then the Divine Goodness will surely hear our prayers. God’s power will drive the Evil One from our acts and thoughts; it will deepen our faith, govern our minds, grant us holy thoughts, and lead us, finally, to share the divine happiness through God’s own son Jesus Christ. Amen
the above is a sermon delivered to newly baptized by St Augustine.
“but your faith demands a more subtler insight”
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>> I vote for “the most blasphemous and deceptive hoax any religion could impose on its people.” <<
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I’ll second that!
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I vote for “the most blasphemous and deceptive hoax any religion could impose on its people
wow, whoever started this “hoax” must have been pretty clever.......
who was this man?
does anyone know?
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>> “Since the answer I know is no, why do you care what the Catholics believe?” <<
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Because beliefs of that sort send our fellow men to Hell without hope.
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And a good and godly sermon it is. The bread and wine are indeed wonderful metaphors for our life together as fellow believers in the body of Christ. To what part of it do you expect me to object? Apart from the word “sacrament,” it could be preached exactly as it is from any Baptist pulpit, to a response of hearty “amens.” So I must confess, I do not see what your purpose is in posting it.
Peace,
SR
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Thanks Barack!
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Yeshua knows, and that man will bear the burden for the millions that will burn in hell because of his deception.
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But your faith demands far subtler insight: the bread is Christ’s body, the cup is Christ’s blood
spoken like every Baptist preacher I ever heard. (sarc )
I am done with this thread, apparently words don’t mean things. I thought conservatives would think like conservatives.
._____ The outward elements in this ordinance, duly set apart to the use ordained by Christ, have such relation to him crucified, as that truly, although in terms used figuratively, they are sometimes called by the names of the things they represent, to wit, the body and blood of Christ, albeit, in substance and nature, they still remain truly and only bread and wine, as they were before
one last post, I don’t anyone being deceived about what Baptists believe. the above is taken from their London Confession of Faith.
the Baptists clearly state the bread remains truly bread as it was before.
St Augustine says the bread is Christ’s body.
other than that...............
over and out.
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Yeshua’s Assembly does not fall for catholic foolishness or any other departure from the word..
That’s where the heart of patriotic politics comes from.
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Nothing wrong with trying to understand God's Word. Doctrine is a result of that study.
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