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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The Muratorian fragment represents the canon of scripture for Rome, c. 180 A.D.

If the Church erred in determining the Canon of Scripture, what infallible Authority established the Canon?

If no infallible Authority existed to establish the canon, then you're left with a "fallible collection of infallible books," as R.C. Sproul famously claimed.

"If he will not listen to the Church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

QUESTION

I recently listened to a debate on sola scriptura between a Catholic apologist and a Baptist who runs an anti-Catholic organization. The Baptist claimed the Catholic Church did not decide the canon of the New Testament at the councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397, 419). As proof he alluded to the Muratorian Fragment, saying that, since it was far older than those councils and since it contains the New Testament canon as we know it, the issue was obviously settled long before the Catholic Church made any decisions. Is it true?

ANSWER

The Baptist fellow is wrong and misled the audience. The Muratorian Fragment (so-called because it represents only a portion of the actual second-century document discovered in 1740 by Lodovico Antonio Muratori), is the oldest extant listing of New Testament-era books revered by early Christians. It was written sometime between 155 and 200. Patristic scholars believe the unknown author originally wrote the list in Greek (since the Latin is very poor), but the oldest copy available is an eighth-century Latin manuscript.

Although the Muratorian Fragment is important in studying how the early Church developed the New Testament canon, it doesn't give exactly the same list of books that was later adopted as canonical at the councils of Hippo and Carthage. The Muratorian Fragment is just that: a fragment of a larger list of books which were considered canonical or quasi-canonical during the second century.

The Fragment itself provides us with a good, though incomplete idea of this early canon. Virtually the entire New Testament canon as we know it is represented: the Gospels of Luke and John (preceded by what seems to be an allusion to the Gospel of Mark), Acts, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Romans, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Thessalonians, Philemon, Titus, 1 & 2 Timothy, Jude, two letters of John (since the fragment simply says "the two ascribed to John," we don't know which two of his three letters are meant), and Revelation.

The unknown author adds other non-canonical books to this line- up: the so-called Pauline Epistles to the Laodiceans and to the Alexandrians (about which the Fragment's author expresses his conviction that they were not authored by Paul), the Wisdom Written by the Friends of Solomon in His Honor, the Apocalypse of Peter, The Shepherd (written by Hermas). The Fragment's list is cut short abruptly with a final, enigmatic phrase which may indicate that the author had gone on to include still other non-inspired writings: "Those also who wrote the new book of psalms for Marcion, together with Basilides, the founder of the Asian Cataphrygians."

As you can see, although the Muratorian Fragment lists most of the New Testament books, it's missing a few (e.g. Matthew, James, 3 John), and it adds several works which are not inspired.

These facts demonstrate that, although the Fragment came close, it did not represent the actual canon of inspired Scripture. Further, there is no internal evidence in the document that it sought to represent any kind of official canon that was regarded by the Church as binding.

In the first four centuries of the Church many books, such as the seven letters of Ignatius, the Letter of Clement [the fourth pope] to the Corinthians, the Didache, and The Shepherd were revered by many Christians as inspired but were later shown to be non-inspired.

It was not until the Councils of Hippo and Carthage that the Catholic Church defined which books made it into the New Testament and which didn't. Probably the council fathers studied the (complete) Muratorian Fragment and other documents, including, of course, the books in question themselves, but it was not until these councils that the Church officially settled the issue.

The plain fact of the matter is that the canon of the Bible was not settled in the first years of the Church. It was settled only after repeated (and perhaps heated) discussions, and the final listing was determined by Catholic bishops. This is an inescapable fact, no matter how many people wish to escape from it.


74 posted on 03/31/2015 5:03:23 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Thanks for providing this. One would like to think that a person of good will and an open mind would humbly take what you have provided and use it as a basis to learn more about something they thought they knew, but were misinformed about.

A good resource is the following:

Why Catholic Bibles are Bigger, by Gary Michuta

75 posted on 03/31/2015 6:20:12 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

If there was indeed a true Apostolic Succession, conveying truth from one bishop to another (like in Rome), the “Popes from Peter down to St. Elethesis in Rome would have not permitted the Revelation of Peter to be even near the other books that the Muratorian fragment lists.

This, ultimately, cuts through the clutter of arguments which you and others have levied here.

There is no Apostolic Succession conveying a so-called truth from one bishop to another in Rome, or in Alexandria (c. 300 A.D., - Clermont List which lists that the church in Alexandria had the Revelation of Peter within their canon of inspired scripture) or anywhere else.

If there was truth conveyed from peter on down, they would know if Peter wrote it. If he didn’t write it they would have know.

No escaping any of this...


81 posted on 04/01/2015 7:37:27 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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