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To: Rashputin
"This saying is hard, and who can hear it?" is the real bottom line for folks who rely on their Self and Self Alone to interpret Scripture whether they murmur and walk away or wave their hands, mock those who accept His Word at face value, then insist that Jesus Christ, The Word Incarnate, could not possibly mean exactly what He said.

Odd... still that uncomfy position regarding worshipping the same god as the Muslims. There is no "self and self alone" -- another useless Catholic Cult Canard (hey.. kinda like the CCC... I like it!).

Christ spoke allegorically. Otherwise, he is a gate, a door, a vine, a cornerstone... at least according to Roman Catholicism.

Which "Holy Tradition" recounts which parts of Christ that were eaten at the Last Supper by the Disciples? He spoke literally, right? How much blood was drained from Christ and consumed by the Disciples?

That's the sort of pap you get from Rome and Rome Alone that look to fallible men of the Magicsterium for interpretation of scripture instead of relying on the Holy Spirit and prayer.

And common sense.

Hoss

130 posted on 03/31/2015 7:27:48 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: HossB86
LOL !!!

The same Holy Spirit and prayers that led all of Christianity up to and including Martin Luther to accept what Jesus Christ Himself said at face value or that other post Luther "holy spirit" hanging from a tree and whispering to the individual that they can rely on their Self and Self Alone?

Please, people who rely on their Self are free to do so but when such folks claim those who disagree with them are not relying on the Holy Spirit and prayer they just prove beyond all doubt they're exactly like the Jews who walked away from Christ when Christ said something that fell outside their comfort zone.

Those Jews rejected Christ based on putting their own limits on what was acceptable for Jesus Christ, the Messiah, God Incarnate, to do. People who are drowning in the heresy of Self and Self Alone do exactly the same thing.

They reject Christ saying "This is my body" because they know for sure God Incarnate would never mean exactly what He said and couldn't possibly perform the miracle of making His real flesh and real blood present for us every time the Eucharist is properly presented because such folks know the power of God Almighty is limited to what they can accept.

Are personal Self and Self Alone comfort zones the same as invincible ignorance?

131 posted on 03/31/2015 8:23:47 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: HossB86
Which "Holy Tradition" recounts which parts of Christ that were eaten at the Last Supper by the Disciples? He spoke literally, right? How much blood was drained from Christ and consumed by the Disciples?

(I'm already on record, repeatedly questioning the use of the word "literally" as confusing and imprecise.)
But here you go:
[Tertia Pars] Question 76. The way in which Christ is in this sacrament

You wouldn't be the first to ask the question or other ones like it. But if you really want to get into it, questions 73 through 83 of the Summa, Tertia Pars, are useful places to begin.

132 posted on 03/31/2015 8:35:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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