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To: OneWingedShark

Here is how it works.

I’ll explain it, though suggested that anyone criticizing the Church should read the catechism on whatever subject, before doing so.

Excommunication is a fact, not a judgment or process. There are no tribunals nor courts.

the Church explains to young Catholic kids and anyone converting to the faith that taking communion in the state of mortal sin compounds the sin and that person is in mortal danger of not going to be able to get into Heaven which is reserved for purified souls.

The Church treats, as God Himself does, all people as having free will.

This is not to mention those who are not baptized in the Catholic Church, then those of no moral judgment through mental incapacitation.

Very basically.

People who are Catechized and who have received first Communion are certainly and by Church law, Canon Law, are fully aware of this.

And that includes Nancy Pelosi.

Here’s what Cardinal Burke says
In a September interview with The Wanderer, a Catholic newspaper, Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke, prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura in Rome, sheds light on Pelosi and communion. He issues a call for pro-abortion politicians to be denied the sacrament — saying that Catholic Canon law must be applied to them.

They are excommunicated.

Excommunication is done from within.

If a priest refuses them Communion, (not to say keep them from entering the Church building), they are correct.

The USCCB, who has pressured Cardinal Burke on this and other matters, are one entitiy.

But the Church, the Canon Law, states that they are excommunicated.

And back to ‘how it works’:

Those (lets say Catholics) who die in the state of mortal sin will not ever go to Heaven.

God judges them.

If the USCCB and their particular Clergy are not admonishing them then they are the unfortunate, as they are the ones, Pelosi, for instance, who will find out quickly that Heaven is not a Dem GOP deal.

Any Catholic who knows the faith knows the weakness of people and knows that the Church itself does not condone Pelosi’s behavior.

It would be good for the Clergy in the US to condemn abortion and birth control.

Verbally.

It would be good for the country, as 50% of Catholics vote democrat

But each person has to face God alone, and Catholics are taught from a young age that if “someone jumps off the Brooklyn Bridge, they’re not going to follow”

Catechesis os way off and that’s on parents - it’s their neglect.

And it all stems from the acceptance and demand for birth control

So I suggest anyone criticizing the clergy, take a look at humanae vitae and see if they themselves are following it’s logical, moral, natural law teaching. the acceptance of birth control is the source of all of these problems

But Nancy Pelosi is excommunicated


99 posted on 03/28/2015 4:30:17 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne; OneWingedShark

If Pelosi shows up for Mass and attempts to participate in Communion how should the Priest respond?


100 posted on 03/28/2015 5:00:01 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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