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To: knarf
Neither Luther nor Calvin "created" "protestantism" By definition, protestantism is the state of being in protest (in this case, religious) ... a state which most all people are guilty

Oh, come now! Anyone with sense knows that the word "protestantism", in the context of this conversation, refers to the spiritual heirs of Luther, Calvin, and the so-called "Reformation". As per dictionary.com:
Protestant

noun
1. any Western Christian who is not an adherent of a Catholic, Anglican, or Eastern Church.
2. an adherent of any of those Christian bodies that separated from the Church of Rome during the Reformation, or of any group descended from them.
3. (originally) any of the German princes who protested against the decision of the Diet of Speyer in 1529, which had denounced the Reformation.
4. (lowercase) a person who protests.
I'll give you this, at least: your idea made it to the list as the quaternary definition, behind only three others! :)

Seriously, though... are you joking?

Perhaps you should stop using a mis-used word and start using "non-Catholic"

FRiend, "Protestantism" is a word coined by Protestants! I certainly didn't invent it... and I certainly didn't slip it in "dictionary.com" while people weren't looking! The fact that you don't care for the word is, frankly, beside the point; it's a well-known, canonical term which is in no way derogatory to Protestants.

Besides... "non-Catholic" would include (at least to some extent) the Eastern Orthodox, who reject Sola Scriptura absolutely, and who believe the vast majority of what the Church teaches... so that term simply wouldn't do. No... using "Protestant" is simple, recognizable, and efficient for the purposes of this conversation... and I'm afraid it's here to stay.

It is one who is not a Catholic that will state things the Catholic interprets as hostile .. thus "protestant"

I do not automatically (or even readily) assume that Protestant commentary is hostile (at least, not to me or to Catholics, or even to the Church per se); on the contrary, I've have many pleasant chats about theology with Protestants who, while disagreeing with the Church (and with me) about many points, were very civil and respectful and reasonable. This forum, on the other hand, has a paucity of such noble souls among the Protestant population, and it has a startlingly large population of anti-Catholic-Church Protestants whose commentary ranges from the hostile to the disingenuous to the mendacious; it is against THEM that I brace myself (for example) for hostility, whenever anything which savors of the Catholic Church is even mentioned.
44 posted on 03/26/2015 1:41:20 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan
This forum, on the other hand, has a paucity of such noble souls among the Protestant population, and it has a startlingly large population of anti-Catholic-Church Protestants whose commentary ranges from the hostile to the disingenuous to the mendacious;

A little redundancy there, eh ?

55 posted on 03/26/2015 2:16:52 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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