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To: SpirituTuo
>>You make a blanket statement the Catholic Church is “wrong,” yet you give no reason for your opinion.<<

I consistently provide scripture to prove Catholicism is wrong.

>>Listening to the Catholic Church and the Holy Spirit are not incompatible.<<

I most certainly is. The Holy Spirit would never sanction inclusion of paganism for one thing.

>>Regarding the Magisterium, it is not lorded over anybody.<<

You're joking right?

>>While you place your trust in yourself<<

No, I place my trust in Christ alone.

>>It is your choice to reject or accept the Church Jesus Christ founded 2000 years ago.<<

Once again, no, I am part of the ekklesia Jesus Christ founded. The Catholic Church in no way can be that ekklesia.

The Holy Spirit through Paul told us that anyone who teaches something the apostles didn't teach is to be considered accursed. The Catholic Church surely falls into that category.

215 posted on 04/01/2015 6:17:24 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

As one can easily verify, it was the Catholic Church which assembled the canon. All Scriptural discussion start there. It was only Luther and later who altered the canon.

Speaking of Luther, these are some of his statements regarding the Bible, as well the Catholic Church itself. Please enjoy and contemplate them!

“We concede — as we must — that so much of what they [the Catholic Church] say is true: that the papacy has God’s word and the office of the apostles, and that we have received Holy Scriptures, Baptism, the Sacrament, and the pulpit from them. What would we know of these if it were not for them?” Sermon on the gospel of St. John, chaps. 14 - 16 (1537), in vol. 24 of LUTHER’S WORKS, St. Louis, Mo., Concordia, 1961, 304

and

“Accordingly, we concede to the papacy that they sit in the true Church, possessing the office instituted by Christ and inherited from the apostles, to teach, baptize, administer the sacrament, absolve, ordain, etc., just as the Jews sat in their synagogues or assemblies and were the regularly established priesthood and authority of the Church. We admit all this and do not attack the office, although they are not willing to admit as much for us; yea, we confess that we have received these things from them, even as Christ by birth descended from the Jews and the apostles obtained the Scriptures from them.” Sermon for the Sunday after Christ’s Ascension; John 15:26-16:4 (2nd sermon), page 265, paragraph 28, 1522.


216 posted on 04/01/2015 8:45:03 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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