“You seem not to understand that the marital consent is a consent to be open to a new life.”
Ah, then there are matters like rape, and incest, where there was no consent. If God allows a child to be produced from such an act, by your logic, He is complicit in violating the woman. Don’t you see that this line of thinking actually plays into the hands of those who think that we can be justified in aborting such children?
No, God does not need our consent to bless us, and giving us children is a blessing! He does not ask our consent when He causes the rain to fall, or when he causes our crops to grow, and neither does He need to ask our consent when he blesses us with a child.
Abortion under circumstances of rape is wrong, not because God was the co-rapist causing the pregnancy, but because every child conceived has the most basic human right: the right to simply go on living. This inheres in their human dignity.
What amazes me, boogieman, is the sustained effort on the part of some FReepers on this RF (not mentioning any names) who go way out of their way, over and over, to insist that this was not a Covenant of Love. To insist that God did not treat Mary as a beloved woman and therefore did not wait for her "Fiat," her "be it done unto me according to Your word."
Every line about "God's love" in the Holy Scripture is negated if we think God would seize a woman against her will to be His reproductive concubine, as if He were Muhammad taking possession of a captured woman.
If it were not a matter of God loving Mary, and Mary loving God, then we indeed have a situation that God is the equivalent of an oriental despot (that's what some FReepers mean by "sovereign") and holiness is reduced to "Just shut up and take it, Inshallah."
I can't bear the trashing dished out to this noble Jewish girl, our Blessed Mary, on this forum. The offenders won't even call her "Blessed" as she prophesied future generations would do. This drive to knock down, level, minimize and defame her ---how repulsive it all is. I'm outta here.