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To: GilesB

Don’t play that sleazy game of big l little libertarian, they are one and the same, it’s just that you guys don’t like your cult beliefs put into plain, political language, you know that it condemns you to sane people.

Real Christians are social conservatives, not social liberals, and there is no denying that social liberalism is what libertarianism is about, or else they would merely be conservatives, and vice versa.


101 posted on 03/23/2015 4:50:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

You have no idea what you’re talking about, so it’s time for you to just stop. It is becoming increasingly obvious that, in this particular battle of knowledge and wits, you are completely unarmed.

“Real Christians are...” That beginning is almost always farcical - as it is in this case.

There in nothing in Christian teaching that demands we insist the government make laws to do anything...the entire Christian teaching is about PERSONAL behavior, brought forth from the conviction of the Spirit - NOT FORCED BY THE LAWS OF MAN. Your attitude is closer to modern liberalism than mine. The modern liberal thinks the admonition to feed the poor means, pass laws to tax people so government can redistribute it, and force everyone to follow Christian teaching. Your attitude is to pass laws against adultery and divorce, thereby forcing everyone to follow Christian teaching. The concept of forcing Christian behavior is so far from what Christ taught that I have to question your understanding of Christianity.

Now, there are very good arguments to be made for laws against adultery and divorce, but being a Christian is not one of them. Being a Christian is a GREAT argument for not being an adulterer or for not divorcing (personal behavior, get it?) Remember - his eye, mote - your eye, beam. When you find a passage where Christ, or one of the apostles, said or wrote something to the effect of: “Demand that government...” or “Insist that your rulers...” or “Make laws that...”, I will reconsider my position. Until then, you should be VERY cautious about making bold, ignorant statements about what “Real Christians” do, are, or believe politically.

Actually, you have it completely backwards - social liberalism is about NO personal responsibility. Libertarianism is ALL about personal responsibility.

“Social liberalism is what libertarianism is about...” You should REALLY stop talking about things of which you are demonstrably ignorant - you have already made yourself look unbelievably foolish on the topic of what libertarians are and aren’t.


115 posted on 03/23/2015 5:48:22 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: ansel12
you guys don’t like your cult beliefs put into plain, political language, you know that it condemns you to sane people.

Indeed, libertarian writings are filled with clever-sounding high-minded polemics on the "rights" of drug addicts, drug dealers, moslems, satanists, prostitutes, pimps, pornographers, and the lowest society has to offer. They don't realize how repulsive it is to casual readers who are not libertarians.

138 posted on 03/24/2015 1:35:47 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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