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To: papertyger

“How would you know? It’s not like drinkers return to meetings to tell others their doctrine is wrong.”

True, but they often return to tell others they were right. I have always lived in modestly small towns. 90% of the alcoholics I have come in contact with who remain sober(or not)are on the radar and their situation easily identified.

‘Furthermore, if one told you they were an alcoholic and got “cured,” the first thing you’d tell them would be “then you weren’t a true alcoholic.”’

That may be the case but talk about something that’s not disprovable.

“True, but it does make being dogmatic about it a matter of faith and not of fact...”

It’s far more than “faith” it’s a theory backed up by an awful lot of experience (myself and many many others)

It seems as though you or someone you know has had some bad experience with AA and also returned from problem drinking to normal drinking status.If that’s the case, God love you, it’s an exceeding rare thing for sure. But if true I would like to hear about it as it would be a first in my experience.


73 posted on 03/17/2015 12:08:55 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
It seems as though you or someone you know has had some bad experience with AA and also returned from problem drinking to normal drinking status.If that’s the case, God love you, it’s an exceeding rare thing for sure. But if true I would like to hear about it as it would be a first in my experience.

Not at all. My experiences with AA were, on the whole, positive.

Nevertheless, I do recognize it is a faith system: something many members do not. That is really my only objection.

As for drinking, I'm completely normal for about fifteen years now...so long as "normal" is defined as nothing but Sacramental Wine at Mass ;)

78 posted on 03/17/2015 12:27:19 PM PDT by papertyger (I didn't leave my party: my party betrayed me.)
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