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To: Steelfish
The Catechism still stands.

I would put more trust in God's Word that the catechism, synods, cannon law, Lumen gentium, and all the rest.

Stick with the God. He never changes.

25 posted on 03/14/2015 7:49:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

God’s Word. Stop right there. The books in the Bible did not fall from the skies and self-assmeble themselves. They were sorted out through infallible interpretation over nearly 300 years under Petrine authority and the canonical text of AD 382 in the Synod of Rome is the Bible you speak of. That infallible authority to say authoritatively what is and is not God’s Word did not disappear eleven centuries late with the Protestant Reformation where very Tom, Dick, and Harry and their grandmother offer us “their” interpretations of God’s Word. Thus we don’t have Joel Osteen anymore than Billy Graham or Jim Jones or David Koresh or Rev. Jeremiah Wright telling us what is God’s Word.


27 posted on 03/14/2015 7:58:52 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: SkyPilot

Well, ebb tide, you are here to say that the catechism, the document serving the Church which was founded by Jesus Himself, does not follow Gods word. You must be smarter than all the founders going back to the year 33 AD are not basing it on the bible. I’ll give you references listed, as you are too frightened to read the selection

But let’s now stop wasting each other’s’ time

Ref from section on sixth commandment incl homosexuality and homosexual behavior

Where you see references to encyclicals, you can google them for biblical references in a second or two

113 Ex 20:14; Deut 5:18.
114 Mt 5:27-28.
115 FC 11.
116 Gen 1:27.
117 Gen 1:28.
118 Gen 5:1-2.
119 FC 22; Cf. GS 49 § 2.
120 MD 6.
121 Gen 2:24.
122 Cf. Gen 4:1-2, 25-26; 5:1.
123 Mt 5:27-28.
124 Cf. Mt 19:6.
125 Cf. Mt 5:37.
126 Cf. Sir 1:22.
127 GS 17.
128 St. Augustine, Conf. 10,29,40:PL 32,796.
129 Cf. Titus 2:1-6.
130 FC 34.
131 GS 25 § 1.
132 Cf. Gal 5:22.
133 Cf. 1 Jn 3:3.
134 Cf. Jn 15:15.
135 Gal 3:27.
136 CDF, Persona humana 11.
137 St. Ambrose, De viduis 4,23:PL 16,255A.
138 CDF, Persona humana 9.
139 CDF, Persona humana 9.
140 Cf. 1 Cor 6:15-20.
141 Cf. Gen 191-29; Rom 124-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10.
142 CDF, Persona humana 8.
143 FC 11.
144 Tob 8:4-9.
145 GS 49 § 2.
146 Pius XII, Discourse, October 29, 1951.
147 GS 48 § 1.
148 Cf. CIC, can. 1056.
149 Mk 109; cf. Mt 19:1-12; 1 Cor 7:10-11.
150 St. John Chrysostom, Hom. in Eph. 20,8:PG 62,146-147.
151 FC 30.
152 HV 11.
153 HV 12; cf. Pius XI, encyclical, Casti connubii.
154 Cf. Eph 3:14; Mt 23:9.
155 GS 50 § 2.
156 GS 51 § 3.
157 Cf. HV 12.
158 HV 16.
159 HV 14.
160 FC 32.
161 GS 51 § 4.
162 Cf. HV 23; PP 37.
163 Cf. GS 50 § 2.
164 Gen 15:2.
165 Gen 30:1.
166 CDF, Donum vitae intro.,2.
167 CDF, Donum vitae II,1.
168 CDF, Donum vitae II,5.
169 CDF, Donum vitae II,4.
170 CDF, Donum vitae II,8.
171 Cf. Mt 5:27-28.
172 Cf. Mt 5:32; 19:6; Mk 10:11; 1 Cor 6:9-10.
173 Cf. Hos 2:7; Jer 5:7; 13:27.
174 Cf. Mt 5:31-32; 19:3-9; Mk 10:9; Lk 16:18; 1 Cor 7:10-ll.
175 Cf. Mt 19:7-9.
176 CIC, can. 1141.
177 Cf. CIC, cann. 1151-1155.
178 St. Basil, Moralia 73,1:PG 31,849-852.
179 Cf. FC 84.
180 FC 19; cf. GS 47 § 2.
181 Cf. Lev 18:7-20.
182 1 Cor 5:1, 4-5.
183 Cf. FC 81.
184 CDF, Persona humana 7.
185 Cf. FC 80.


28 posted on 03/14/2015 8:00:06 PM PDT by stanne
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