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To: Iscool

What a bunch of wingnuts...They misquote scripture and then ignore so much scripture it makes you think they are dishonest...

Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

There’s Matthew’s version...

Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

That’s Luke’s version...No babtism...

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Conversion without baptism...

Act 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

No baptism...

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Again, no baptism...

Act 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Repentance and Faith...Obviously baptism wasn’t profitable for Paul...

There are some common things that are required for salvation...One is God’s grace...The next is repentance (turning to Jesus), and the last is Faith (not in a religion)...

Without all three of those, baptizing a baby is a waste of perfectly good holy water...


That’s not scripture interpreting scripture. That’s taking a bunch of clear verses about faith, pitting them against other clear verses about baptism, and trying to make the verses about baptism go away. No one doubts that it’s possible to be saved without being baptized - but that doesn’t mean what the scriptures say baptism is and does isn’t true.
A more intellectually honest way would be okay all of these verses are true somehow, now how is that?


193 posted on 03/10/2015 8:46:24 PM PDT by CraigEsq
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To: CraigEsq
No one doubts that it’s possible to be saved without being baptized

There are plenty of people who are convinced it's impossible to be saved without water baptism...That's who this is written to...

195 posted on 03/11/2015 1:52:06 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: CraigEsq
That’s not scripture interpreting scripture. That’s taking a bunch of clear verses about faith, pitting them against other clear verses about baptism, and trying to make the verses about baptism go away.

It certainly is scripture interpreting scripture...If you follow the context the statement made is that entire households were baptized so that had to include babies...

These scriptures show that the entire households had to be believers to be baptized...No babies...

196 posted on 03/11/2015 1:57:38 AM PDT by Iscool
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