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To: 1010RD; StormPrepper; All
Well, it's easy for you to play the role of the accuser...

When you label the messenger as the "parser" I suppose it's a LOT easier then of not having to deal with the "text" -- that which is being expounded...

You can take all of Romans 3, ALL of Romans 5, ALL of Romans 6...and read it yourself...

Nobody forces you to be a "parsed out" receiver of anything Biblical...it's there as an ENTIRE book...

So digest it as a whole...
...Revise and rewrite those Biblical chapters as a whole...
...do what you want as a whole...
...but deal with the text...
...then you'll be at complete liberty to halt whining about their specifics...

Of course, the implications of your position is to truncate the Great Commission...

For now it's not to "make disciples of all ethnic groups, baptizing them in the Name -- not names like the Mormons make it out to be -- of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit -- and teaching them to observe all that Christ commands...
...NoW the truncated Mormon version is to leave off the young kids!

"Go make disciples of ALL ethnic groups except the kids! Because they're already 'perfect'"

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ALL: What's even stranger for the Mormon doctrine that kids are "perfect" for the first 7 years & 364 days of their lives!

It's been a LONG time since I posted the "Top Ten" doublespeak list on Mormonism...and I won't repost it now. But here was #10 from that list:

10. "Little kids are perfect until age 8. That's why we baptize them at that age...for the remission of sins...that, uh, the sins they, uh, don't have."

"And their children shall be baptized for the remission of their sins when eight years old... (Joseph Smith, Doctrine & Covenants 68:27)

Either you -- 1010rd -- or you Stormprepper -- wish to explain to the world this curious Mormon doctrine of Mormon baptism for the remission of sins...in light of the Mormon doctrine of childhood perfection?

What sins are there to "remit" if they are indeed perfect, as the Book of Mormon claims:

...little children are whole, for they are NOT CAPABLE OF COMMITTING SIN..." (Moroni 8:8).

In fact, Joseph Smith has the character Moroni claim just three verses later that "their little children need no repentance, neither baptism. Behold, baptism is unto repentance to the fulfilling the commandments unto the remission of sins." (Moroni 8:11)

IF indeed the lone purposes of Mormon baptism is (a) repentance; and (b) the remission of sins...what indeed do perfect Mormon children even need to be baptized for?

What happens at age 8 that isn't there at age 7 and 364 days? What are Mormons doing in their "environments" over a single day causing their children to have this cancer-like sin that suddenly needs remission?

(It seems like 1010 that if you are baptizing 8 yo suddenly in need of "sin remission" after NOT being capable of sin, that you are IMPUTING sin to them ... and collectively so...across the board to just about EVERY Mormon 8 yo...curious)

By your own standards, is that not assuming a "pedophile" position in blaming all these Mormon 8 yo?

159 posted on 03/10/2015 5:25:23 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

I understand you have a monomania with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (I found this change of subject for you very refreshing and presumed that you might have been recently married or won the Lottery), but that’s not the topic. Let’s stay on topic. Try to focus.

The conclusion that a baby can sin inexorably leads to the Pedophiles Postulate: the infant asked for it.

Furthermore, it indicates the Satan wins and that God cares more for procedure, than faith and the scriptures end to end refute that. A willing heart...


163 posted on 03/10/2015 5:49:44 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Colofornian; All
Either you -- 1010rd -- or you Stormprepper -- wish to explain to the world this curious Mormon doctrine of Mormon baptism for the remission of sins...in light of the Mormon doctrine of childhood perfection?

The same reason Jesus was baptized. Because it's what His Father commanded everyone, including Jesus, to do.

If God is truly no respecter of persons, then His commandments apply equally to everyone.

Baptism is for repentance but repentance is not a one time thing. Baptism opens the gate and allows a person to repent in the future. So a child that is sinless at eight years old, is baptized to allow them to repent through out their life.

Notice also, Jesus Himself was baptized as an adult, not as a baby.
168 posted on 03/10/2015 7:13:45 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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