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To: Mr Rogers
So, here this represents My body, this bread He said. And this cup represents My blood. It was not His blood. His blood was still in His veins when He said that. It was not His body. His body was still sitting there when He said that. So, we’re not talking about literal things.”

The word "represents" is nowhere to be seen.

He said "THIS IS MY BODY and THIS IS MY BLOOD" and that's exactly what He meant.

570 posted on 03/02/2015 8:27:11 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall!)
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To: terycarl; Mr Rogers

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>> “The word “represents” is nowhere to be seen.” <<

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Then when he held the barley loaf at the last supper, he was holding his body in his hand???

I had to pause to stop laughing! - Logic 101 catholic style.

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576 posted on 03/02/2015 8:51:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: terycarl; D-fendr

“He said “THIS IS MY BODY and THIS IS MY BLOOD” and that’s exactly what He meant.”

“The verb to be, estin, or whatever form you want, singular or plural, is frequently used to mean represents.”

In Greek, he did not say exactly what you think he said.

“When Jesus said in John 10, “I am the door,” He meant I as a Savior and shepherd of the sheep represent a door into the sheepfold. He wasn’t literally a door. In Matthew 13 when He gave the parable of the wheat and the tares and He said, “The field is the world,” He didn’t really mean the field is the world. In the parable He meant the field represents the world. And He said the good seed are the children of God and the bad seed, the children of the wicked one. And, of course, the words is and are in those cases simply means represents. It’s used in a figurative, metaphorical sense.”

Jesus was talking to adults. They understood Him as adults. The wooden slab in my house’s opening is NOT the body of Jesus.

“NOT “in a perpetual ongoing sacrifice of me”, but to REMEMBER. / I don’t see a reason why this is a dichotomy. It can also be complementary.”

Except a perpetual sacrifice would be a direct contradiction of scripture:

“And just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment, so also Christ was offered once for all time as a sacrifice to take away the sins of many people. He will come again, not to deal with our sins, but to bring salvation to all who are eagerly waiting for him.”

“but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time onward until His enemies be made a footstool for His feet. For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.”


681 posted on 03/03/2015 6:24:10 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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