[editor-surveyor]

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>> “ One can assert they existed, but it is just an assertion without evidence.” <<

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Yeshua was the one that asserted their existence.

His evidence was strong.

There are no denominations in Yeshua’s assembly, and they are obviously universal, but have no association to the man made monster that calls itself “The catholic church.” (Nor any other “church.”)

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[D-fendr]

Again, that’s your assertion. I’m asking for who where when specifically.