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To: editor-surveyor; Jeremiah Jr; amorphous

Revelation 12 gives us the sign in the heavens that Yahshua wasborn..

The woman was clothed with tthe sun and the moin as under her feet.
That astronomical even occurs every year.
In 2014, it fell on September 26..

The true New Moon Day..

It wasn’t a new moon to those who say they are Jews. But are not, because when you count to 10 from there, you fall on ‘Sunday’ and that is a no no for rabbi rules today..

It is he same deal with those same rabbis who say a day begins in the evening.
That just isn’t true..

He called the Light Day..
Dark is not a creation just like Cold isn’t created.
Dark and cold are simply the absence of Light and Heat..

When one studies the hebrew ‘evening’ used in Genesis creation, it is defined as meaning ‘dusk, twilight/fading of the day’.. (erev- 6153)

Problem with that is one must have. Light’ before there is something called ‘dusk, twilight’ or the fading of light’.

See, rabbis reject the plain chronology of what a day is , just like Rome who starts their days at midnight.,

It is why this year passover on April 3rd in the evening’ is off by aday as well.

Friday aApril 3rd is the 13th ‘day’ from the new moon that was spotted the evening of march 21. March 22nd would be the first ‘day’ of the new month.
When people simply count, Friday April 3rd is the 13th day..
Saturday will be the 14th ‘day’.. and Torah says that the lamb was slain on the 14th at evening,.

That appears to be 24 hours later than what will be ‘observed’ for those who call themselves Jews..

It will make the 15th day as Sunday and Torah calls that day a Sabbath .
A no no for rabbis..

The mixing of calendars and the misunderstanding of when a ‘day’ begins ( He Called Light Day) , one will never worship Him in spirit and truth.
Exactly what the enemy wants..
Jews, Muslims, Christians, secular humanists, atheists all in the same Babylonian boat..

We disagree on the calendar because we disagree with when HisDay begins..

plainly, Light, less light (evening in our english language), no light (Dark-Night), new light (boqer- strongs 1242-break of day/morning)

First Day..

And rabbis and their followers and the pope and his followers don’t agree with the plain description given in Genesis ..

In am okay being in the minority of knowing when His Day starts and when His months begin..

The sign in revelation cannot be at the full moon.. simple astronomy computer application can prove that your doctrine is false..


120 posted on 03/23/2015 2:42:58 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante; Jeremiah Jr; amorphous

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Save your contra-scriptural nonsense for the comic book fans!

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121 posted on 03/23/2015 2:57:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: delchiante; editor-surveyor
Revelation 12 gives us the sign in the heavens that Yahshua wasborn..

First, The Name is Yeshua

Tehillim 28:8
יְהוָה עֹז־לָמוֹ וּמָעוֹז יְשׁוּעוֹת מְשִׁיחוֹ הוּא׃

Revelation 1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place.

Things which must shortly take place.

Revelation 4
4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, ‘Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.’

‘Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.’

At the beginning of the Book of Revelation we have two witnesses testify about things that will take place 'after this', after Yohannan's vision of heaven.

Yeshua was in heaven and Yohannan was on the isle of Patmos, ergo Revelation 12 cannot be referring to the birth of Yeshua.

Revelation 12 refers to the birth of America, read

The Secret Architecture of Our Nation’s Capital
The Masons and the Building of Washington, D.C.
By David Ovason

Betulah (Virgo) was the primary zodiac symbol when the Mason's laid the cornerstone of the White House and the U.S. Capitol Building. Check it out. Apply Occam's Razor.

As far as I can tell you guys lack only comprehension and retention regarding your studies. Other than that...

And once again there is no seven year time period in the Book of Revelation! Ergo no seven year tribulation. Daniel's 70th week is divided between Yeshua and the anti-Messiah. Another day...

As for your calendar confusion listen to Yeshua...
Matthew 23
23 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

הַסּוֹפְרִים וְהַפְּרוּשִׁים יׂשְׁבִים עַל־כִּסֵּא משֶׁה׃

SOFERIM
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0018_0_18796.html

The Soferim sit in Moshe's seat!

122 posted on 03/23/2015 4:53:37 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHaI)
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To: delchiante; editor-surveyor; Jeremiah Jr
We disagree on the calendar because we disagree with when HisDay begins..

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

A "day" (meaning when there is light) is counted as a day by either method. The early and modern Hebrews/Jews begin counting a "new day" after dark, the west begins the "new day" in the middle of the night (the night being split into two halves) - not too kosher IMHO, as it goes against the Almighty's way of keeping time.

The Hebrew month begins with the sighting of the new moon (after dark) - the evening AND morning of that day, prior to the sighting, IS the last day of the month.

High Sabbaths can indeed fall on weekly Sabbaths or any other day of the week for that matter.

That's the way it has been kept for thousand of years, even during Yeshua's first time on earth. There is no controversy that I'm aware of in the scriptures concerning this.

123 posted on 03/23/2015 5:28:43 PM PDT by amorphous
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