[SkyPilot]

Well, that's quite a theory. I would say it makes much more literal sense (and I always take the Bible literally), that the seals are opened after the Rapture, and the seals are not opened over thousands and thousands of years.

Jesus saw and described the same events (Matthew 24:9) that He allowed John to see.

This makes much more sense (again, the Bible must be taken literally) than the theory you laid out about the 1260 days of Daniel really being years, the Pope, something about 1798 and the Pope, and then smattering in every war and famine in history, hitting the add key, then equals, and coming up with the conclusion that this is how God chose to reveal the End Times to us.

I could be wrong you know. I am not omniscient!

However, this author makes much more sense to me.

A great way to locate the timing of the rapture is by studying the breaking of the first six seals in Revelation 6. The Apostle John saw great trouble released by the breaking of each of the first five seals. Jesus saw the same events and called this the tribulation (Matthew 24:9). Both John and Jesus saw a time of trouble coming in the last days that would include wars, famines, earthquakes, persecution, and the murder of many saints, and the rise of the antichrist (Matthew 24:4-19). As bad as these things are, Jesus said these are merely the beginning of birth pangs (Matthew 24:8). Since there have always been wars, famines, earthquakes, persecution, and martyrs, we cannot conclude yet that both passages are referring to the same events. But both John and Jesus saw another event that only happens one time in all of human history, the rise of the antichrist. They both saw the actions of the antichrist during this time of trouble. Since there is only one antichrist, we can conclude they both saw the same events during the same time period. John saw a rider on a white horse receives a crown after the first seal is broken. The white horse is a symbol of conquest, but also represents a counterfeit of the Messiah who promised to return riding on a white horse. This false Messiah is the antichrist. After receiving his first crown he begins using his crown to gain more crowns (Revelation 6:1-2). This marks the beginning of his rise to power and the beginning of the tribulation period. Jesus saw the antichrist near the end of the tribulation period. He saw him entering the temple and standing in the holy place, which is what the prophet Daniel called the abomination that brings desolation (Matthew 24:15). This arrogant action is the pivotal point that brings an end to the time of birth pangs. The cup of the wrath of God is full and about to be poured out. The tribulation period ends and the great tribulation is about to begin.

[delchiante]

I am glad you wrote that because I will say something very unpopular.

It has to do with the counterfeit Messiah.

I see how Rome has counterfeited the True Genuine Messiah in our time..

Jesus born on December 25, killed on good Friday and raised Easter Sunday bear no scriptural truth..
Those are, even the name Jesus, is founded in Roman traditions..

The real Messiah was born on a New Moon Day, an appointed time He gave Israel to worship,,
That ‘sign’ is recorded in revelation 12.

Scripture records the genuine Messiah laid His life down on Passover, the 14th day of the 1st month. An appointed time He gave Israel for worship.

He laid in the tomb and rested on the Feast of Unleavened Bread, 15th day.. a High Sabbath appointed by Him to Israel for worship.

And He was raised on the 16thday, feast of First Fruits (the first day of the week) another appointed time He gave Israel for worship,.

All of those genuine Truths can be found in scripture..

That is not what Rome teaches.. they have another ‘gospel’ than what Paul preached. he taught Passover, unleavened bread and first fruits..

What if the Jesus Rome teaches and worships is the counterfeit? A clever copy that cannot be detected without careful study of the genuine..

The antichrist. My concordance says anti can mean ‘instead of’, ‘in place of’..

When I saw that even the name Jesus can be explained away with scripture witnesses, I have no problem saying I met the Savior as the Roman Jesus, but He didn’t let me stay there..

And if there is a rapture, maybe lots of people who think they worship in spirit and Truth are really being deceived by the seat of the antichriat.. the papacy that says their Jesus is God..

Without testing and proving all things did I get led to this...

People may be waiting for the antichrist to hit the scene when they worship him thanks to Rome and the papacy..

I have even studied the mark of the beast and the number of his name.. it all can be pointed to Rome...

And Protestants may be willing to say some of it.. but most just think that catholics worship Jesus ‘wrong’..

They don’t think that Rome’s Jesus is ‘another Jesus’..

I was a protestant who didn’t see Christmas or Easter as ‘catholic’.. they were ‘christian’..

Now I see them as the seat of the antichrist’s holy days.. days that counterfeit the genuine Truth found in scripture..

But I am different. I reject the pope Gregory calendar the world usea to set their work and worship lives..

I came out of Babylon..