Without understanding Old Testament prophesy it will all be “symbolic” per whatever pre conceived notions one has. Especially Daniels prophesies of 490 years of which there are seven left. The 144,000 are literally 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel who will be protected during the last 3 1/2 years of the seven year tribulation.
One curious conversation topic is how lists of the tribes vary slightly from source to source, none of the sources being self conscious about it.
People can see Daniel differently..
Israel had their seven.. personal plea from the Messiah that started in 27 AD.. He was cut off and did away with the sacrifices 3,5 years in when He became sin, 31 AD.
His message continued to Israel for another 3.5 years after His resurrection and that seven years closed with the stoning death of Stephen in 34 AD at the hands of the Sanhedrin..
A personal plea rejected..Israel lost out and the Gentiles began to be grafted in..
And Rome can as the desolator and leveled jerusalem..
Rome is and will continue to be the desolator
And the first reformers werent wrong in calling the papacy the seat of antichrist.
There was a decree that happened in 457 BC to rebuild temple.
69” sevens’ would be 483 years
That would bring one to 27AD.
That is when He began His ministry.
7 years would end in 34 AD and that was when the message of the gospel started to go out to the Gentiles and the rest of the world after the stoning of Stephen by the Sanhedrin and the scattering of the disciples from Jerusalem..
That shows a literal fulfillment of the 490 years, including the last 7 which was a personal, physical plea to repent.
Which they rejected.. and then at some point, wrath will be poured out on the desolator (Rome)
We know that will come.
Rome and the papacy and the pope called the desolator, seat of the antichrist and antichrist have biblical foundations.
And it also makes having a rebuilt temple in jeruslalem not a need.
They can do abominations just by speaking from the human body, which is the temple of the Holy Spirit given to us by God.