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Why Did Jesus Christ Come to Earth?
Reformed Bibliophile ^ | August 31, 2012 | B.B. Warfield

Posted on 02/23/2015 5:41:49 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: sushiman; Iscool
>>The sun is reborn every year on Dec 25th when it stops at it’s lowest point in the sky and remains there for 3 days under the southern cross (crux) constellation.<<

You haven't identified the sun's mother sushiman. Can't be born without a mother. You need to work on that story.

81 posted on 02/24/2015 4:50:45 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Actually, Jesus Christ was born so that Mary could be the Mother of God, the Mother of All Christians, Queen of the Angels, and Mediatrix of All Graces.

Chapter and verse on all that and those titles?

Actually, Jesus came into the world to save sinners.

You really need to become more familiar with Scripture and the CCC ain't it.

82 posted on 02/24/2015 4:51:23 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur McGowan; boatbums
>>It’s funny how he never said that everything he taught was to be transmitted ONLY in writing, either.<<

I wonder why He always told the prophets to write then?

83 posted on 02/24/2015 4:54:40 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Jesus Christ was born in order to found the Catholic Church, which exists to dispense his grace to mankind through the ordinary means of his sacraments.

Jesus doesn't *dispense* His grace in stingy little parcels as the hands of men.

Ephesians 1:3-10 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Romans 5:1-2 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

John 1:14-17 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

84 posted on 02/24/2015 4:56:16 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mark17; A CA Guy

To the best of my knowledge, the Scriptures make no relationship between the so-called vacancy left by the fallen angels and the creation of humankind. We are a different order of being. So that whole line of thought strikes me as totally speculative and therefore totally unprofitable. Like CS Lewis once said, it isn’t the things I don’t understand in the Bible that bother me. It’s the things I do understand that bother me.

Peace,

SR


85 posted on 02/24/2015 5:48:06 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: sushiman; Iscool
Jesus is a metaphor for the sun , and the 12 disciples are the 12 signs of the zodiac. The sun is reborn every year on Dec 25th when it stops at it’s lowest point in the sky and remains there for 3 days under the southern cross (crux) constellation. After 3 days it moves 1 degree north (the resurrection) and at easter, when the day is longer for the first time than the night, we then celebrate the resurrection of Christ due to the movement of the sun.

The 12 disciples (zodiac signs) are all fishermen (Pisces), water carriers (Aquarius), goat herders (Sagittarius), the herd themselves (Capricorn), etc..


Bogus. This sounds like a warmed over summary of the thoroughly debunked Zeitgeist movie of YouTube fame.  Check out it's total demolition/deconstruction here:

http://www.alwaysbeready.com/zeitgeist-the-movie

Short form, Mithraism's most striking parallels to early Christianity actually source to a time after Christ had already lived and died and rose again.  In other words, Mithraism appears to have deliberately stolen elements of the true Gospel story, not the other way around.  

BTW, getting where the 12 disciples came from requires no reference to the zodiac.  They are the New Testament parallel to the twelve tribes of Israel, which in turn are based on the 12 sons of Israel (aka Jacob).  Inasmuch as we know Israel really existed, and had twelve tribes, that is sufficient basis to establish that the parallel with the disciples was grounded in already existing historical fact.

The readers of the above link will also take interest in the numerous extra-biblical sources of evidence that Jesus existed.  There probably has never been a person of such antiquity whose real existence has been so well attested so close to the time of His appearance in history.  So this statement doesn't even get past the laugh test.  Sorry. :)

Peace,

SR
86 posted on 02/24/2015 6:06:47 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Elsie

The Sun, since the first day of summer, has each day been moving southward, and stops when it reaches its lowest point in the Northern Hemispheric sky (December 22nd - our winter solstice).

At this lowest point, the Sun stops its journey southward. For three days, December 22nd, 23rd , and 24th, the Sun rises on the exact same latitudinal (declination) degree.

This is the only time in the year that the Sun actually stops its movement Northward or Southward in our sky. On the morning of December 25th the Sun moves one degree northward beginning its annual journey back to us in the Northern Hemisphere, ultimately bringing our spring. Anything steadily moving all year long that suddenly stops moving for three days was considered to have died. Therefore, God’s Sun who was dead for three days, moves one-degree Northward on December 25th beginning its annual journey back to the Northern Hemisphere. The Sun is symbolically ....BORN AGAIN.


87 posted on 02/24/2015 6:41:48 AM PST by sushiman
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To: smokingfrog

“One man’s opinion...”

Actually the opinion of millions, but sadly not quite accurate. I cannot find a list of the Sacraments, or the words “Catholic Church” in the Bible, among many other claims of the Catholic Church, but they do have a very neat program to walk you through the steps to His Salvation. That folks like Pelosi, etc. (openly unrepentant sinners) are not banned from receiving the Eucharist is a good sign of the Catholic Church failing its membership for lack of proper discipline. Not that any denomination has higher ground for want of failures...


88 posted on 02/24/2015 6:58:35 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy. Cruz, that is. Texas conservative.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Far out!


89 posted on 02/24/2015 7:06:09 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy. Cruz, that is. Texas conservative.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“Actually, Jesus Christ was born so that Mary could be the Mother of God, the Mother of All Christians, Queen of the Angels, and Mediatrix of All Graces.”

I find it hard to conceive that a self-described priest could believe something this heretical.

Since this didn’t come from the Bible, where did you pick up this idea?


90 posted on 02/24/2015 8:02:02 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: metmom

I think Arthur is just being sarcastic ..he is “playing with us


91 posted on 02/24/2015 8:12:41 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

My purpose was two-fold:

1) to give offense;

2) to demonstrate that some people are humorless prigs.


92 posted on 02/24/2015 11:03:10 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: sushiman; Elsie
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. (Psalm 19:1)
93 posted on 02/24/2015 11:18:50 AM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
My purpose was two-fold: 1) to give offense; 2) to demonstrate that some people are humorless prigs.

You failed at #1 - I felt sorrow for you.

You failed at #2 - That would have required actual humor. Given your posting history, it was likely you actually believed what you posted.


94 posted on 02/24/2015 11:19:23 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I never said I posted anything I don’t believe.

But I most certainly DID succeed at #2. The problem, from your point of view, is that a fish does not know what water is.


95 posted on 02/24/2015 11:48:12 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

“But I most certainly DID succeed at #2. The problem, from your point of view, is that a fish does not know what water is.”

Sure Arther.

From my point of view, what you posted was absolutely consistent with your other posts - particularly, a lack of understanding of the Scriptures. It was no leap at all to conclude it was more of the same. That was the sad part.


96 posted on 02/24/2015 11:55:07 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Elsie
As a side note: have you guys noticed Venus and Mars together in the evening sky this month?

There aren't any stars up there...It's all snow...There isn't any sun either...

97 posted on 02/24/2015 11:59:06 AM PST by Iscool
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To: sushiman
For three days, December 22nd, 23rd , and 24th, the Sun rises on the exact same latitudinal (declination) degree.

No; it does not.

98 posted on 02/24/2015 12:30:16 PM PST by Elsie
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Since this didn’t come from the Bible, where did you pick up this idea?

From other Catholics; of course!

99 posted on 02/24/2015 12:32:19 PM PST by Elsie
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
From other Catholics; of course!

Didn't you read #68?

100 posted on 02/24/2015 12:33:18 PM PST by Elsie
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