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To: CynicalBear

Lazarus would disagree with that. So would I as I died, left my body and then returned to my physical body. It’s the soul that really matters and nothing can destroy it, not even an atomic bomb exploded on one’s head. However, satan can shackle it for a long time!

What about the misguided souls of the aborted fetuses I encounter? They are not demons or even recruited by satan’s minions. They are just lost and often clinging to their mother. Very pure, but also very lost.

I respect what you are saying. And, I do believe the Bible is the word of God and accept Jesus as my Savior. I must reconcile my experiences with the Bible and have often found different meaning of scripture by meditating and praying for guidance when my experiences differ from my original Bible interpretation.


61 posted on 02/21/2015 3:50:10 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

Please show from scripture that indicates the souls once having permanently left the body can be saved.


62 posted on 02/21/2015 3:53:30 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: tired&retired

You are encountering demons who are lying to you.

There are no *misguided* or *lost* souls without a body wandering around out there somewhere.

You have no Scripture to even begin to support your assertions but appeal to *experience*.

Well, Scripture is TRUTH. Experience is experience and Satan can and will lie to you through it to deceive you.

You need to confess and repent of the deception you’ve been operating under and turn to JESUS only and trust HIM only for salvation.


66 posted on 02/21/2015 4:23:15 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: tired&retired

“I respect what you are saying. And, I do believe the Bible is the word of God and accept Jesus as my Savior. I must reconcile my experiences with the Bible and have often found different meaning of scripture by meditating and praying for guidance when my experiences differ from my original Bible interpretation.”

T&R, I appreciate your honesty about your experiences. Sadly, they are unsound. Talking to the misguided souls of aborted fetuses? Building such a ministry on John 14 is an epic stretch.

Experience not backed by Scripture is the breeding ground of many an error. “The just shall live by faith.” Faith, without seeing. Here you are dying and coming back, being burned and instantly healed, doing exorcisms, talking to the spirits of dead people “hanging around”, etc. If you were in the Corinthian era—where even the carnal displayed sign gifts—it would make a bit more sense (barring the last part).

Even if these things are “just happening” to you there is no reason to passively accept them (or meditate your way to a “new” understanding) when they contradict God’s revealed Word. Renounce any occultic ties! Satan is a master counterfeiter.


79 posted on 02/21/2015 6:57:13 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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