Posted on 02/20/2015 2:13:26 PM PST by NYer
Father Barron teaches error. Hell is a a lot more than eternal separation from God.
The power of God is such that any who belong to him cannot remain under “false beliefs”. They must inevitably come out of it, because “all that the Father giveth to me comes to me, and whoever comes to me I shall never cast out.” (John chapter 6). God is not a Shepard who lets the sheep flee into the wilderness. He actively hunts them down and brings them home.
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The first phrase that comes to mind is Sartre's statement that "Hell is other people". FWIW I'm no fan of Sartre.
God wouldn’t burn people forever if he didn’t love them so much.
The removal of someone from even the possibility of Christ’s redemption, and God’s presence in their life. Hell is not just the weight of sin forever, and a living death. It is the absence of God, the source of all that is good.
I think it’s better to foster true scripture discussion (in love) on this forum.
I believe there will be both “Catholic” and “Protestant” churchgoers in Hell, unfortunately..because they didn’t really have Christ-they had their own works, which isn’t righteousness instead.
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“Answer: the “isolation” we are talking about here does not mean necessarily that there will be no other persons present. Think of it this way. Have you ever seen a person who is “all alone” in the middle of a party with people all around? For example, a person who is angry or having a “pity party” and wants nothing to do with anyone? In fact, the presence of people having fun can be an occasion for increased rage for someone like that! “
I consider Hell as not being able to see God or be near Him. There is a longing in each of us to understand God, and rejection of Him probably results in losing that closeness to God.
“Is God in Purgatory?”
Never thought about that, but, as far as I know, no, God is not in Purgatory. That absence, however, is temporary and the soul is consoled knowing it will soon be united with God for all eternity.
“Whatever happened to Limbo?”
Nothing. You can still believe in it if you want. It was never a defined dogma in any case.
“If Limbo was truth at one time, when did it stop being truth?”
No one has said it is not true. Thus, your question is based on a false premise. Maybe you should study up on the issue.
“Hell” is from the Hebrew word “Sheol” meaning “grave” And three Greek words. “Hades” means “Grave” , “Gehenna” meaning “city Dump” and Taranac meaning “Angel’s prison “. There is nothing after death unless you are saved. Hell is a non existence.
I think Jesus paints a pretty bleak picture of what Hell is. It is a real place and God is not there. The story Jesus tells about the the rich man and the leper, where the rich man begs that just a drop of water from the tip of the leper’s finger would be great relief speaks volumes.
I’m not Catholic but I am an ordained Christian minister. I am also a Calvinist who believes in living like he’s an Arminian. The consequences of how we who believe live our lives and share Christ are eternal. St. Paul says in Romans 10:9-10 that if you believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord you will be saved. I’m in no position to judge who is and isn’t; only God knows the heart but either you’re saved or you’re not. Those who aren’t face an eternity of anguish, the worst part being an eternal separation from the presence of God. The Bible says repeatedly there will be weeping and gnashing of the teeth, gnawing of the tongue, hellfire and brimstone, unbelievable pain. And that’s just the physical, let alone the spiritual separation from God.
Blessings.
All alone, for eternity with no knowledge of what happened to my family and friends. Complete separation from God and everyone else.
I think that hell should be ice cold, dark and lonely.
I pray that God is forgiving and that I somehow can be in a state of Grace when I pass away. When I look back on my life, I've done some things that have taken me a long way from the Lord.
I don't know anything about Catholics or Protestants or Jews or Hindi or whatever. I'm worried about me. I figure God has plans for everybody and I'm busy trying to clean up my messes.
Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
It is a specially-engineered place, where God is not.
In utter darkness there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Have you ever done something and instantly realized your mistake? This is what hell will be like, without the possibility of correcting your mistake, or hoping for a better tomorrow.
Hell wasn’t created for people. It was created for the devil and his angels as a place of everlasting torment for their rebellion against a perfect, just and loving God.
It becomes a place’of everlasting torment for those people that have declined God’s plan of salvation for them. But that wasn’t why it was originally created.
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