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Lawmakers to San Fran Archbishop: Drop Morality Clauses for Teachers
The National Catholic Register ^ | 2/19/15 | Joan Frawley Desmond

Posted on 02/20/2015 1:34:03 PM PST by marshmallow

A group of California lawmakers asked Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco to remove "morality clauses" from a proposed contract for teachers in high schools under his jurisdiction, reported the Los Angeles Times.

The new language in the contracts direct teachers in four archdiocesan high schools to avoid public statements or actions that oppose Church teaching on contraception, pre-marital sex or homosexual relationships. My story on the proposed change in contract language is here.

In their letter to the archbishop, the California lawmakers argued that the morality clauses "conflict with settled areas of law and foment a discriminatory environment in the communities we serve."

Specifically, the lawmakers argue that the archdiocese should not designate all teachers within the schools as "ministers." This designation, they charge, will lead to the violation of the teachers' civil rights, because the so-called "ministerial exception" permits church-affiliated institutions broad rights to address employee issues.

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1 posted on 02/20/2015 1:34:03 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

He should tell them to sod off.

In appropriately episcopal language ...


2 posted on 02/20/2015 1:35:44 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: marshmallow

How many more examples do decent people need? The government is our enemy.


3 posted on 02/20/2015 1:38:08 PM PST by skeeter
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To: marshmallow; NorthMountain

Excuse me? Since when do they get a say?


4 posted on 02/20/2015 1:41:27 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: marshmallow

Goodbye Catholic schools.


5 posted on 02/20/2015 1:43:04 PM PST by aquila48
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To: marshmallow

Schools have a right to make sure their instructors are instructing what they are instructed to instruct and to set and example the institution can stand behind.
After all public school make sure all their instructors are communists don’t they?


6 posted on 02/20/2015 1:45:55 PM PST by thorvaldr
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To: NorthMountain
"He should tell them to sod off."

I doubt that he will, but he will probably not change church policy. But I think the day is coming when churches will not be allowed to follow their own consciences if it disagrees with that of Leviathan.
7 posted on 02/20/2015 1:52:28 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: marshmallow

Aren’t homo-activists always telling us that they won’t interfere with religion?

I guess that was lie number 978,325.


8 posted on 02/20/2015 1:52:41 PM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: skeeter
"How many more examples do decent people need? The government is our enemy."

Counting down to Civil War II: 10 . . . 9 . . . 8 . . . 7 . . .

I think we're getting close.
9 posted on 02/20/2015 1:54:44 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: aquila48
"Goodbye Catholic schools."

I think Catholic schools - at all levels - are already mostly a thing of the past. They are becoming havens for affluent liberals - of any or no religion - who want an alternative to the public schools.
10 posted on 02/20/2015 1:57:01 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: NorthMountain

I talked to him for 30 minutes one time......he is a holy no nonsense kind of man.


11 posted on 02/20/2015 2:34:28 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: marshmallow
It’s not like folks are teasing and testing the possibility of the slippery slope….they are already on it and careening toward the bottom. I was struck the other day by the references to new governor of Oregon Kate Brown being the ‘nation's first openly bisexual chief executive’. What? And this wasn’t immediately jumped on and denounced by disgusted people around not only the State but around the Country? So are the great unwashed willingly accepting that what she does is a perfectly normal state of being? Well of course they are….. after all, once they’ve accepted the concept of homosexuality as being an alternative/normal state of being, why shouldn’t they accept something that is some combination of hero/homo? Then why not accept pedophilia as a normal state of being? Or incest? Or multiple wives, husbands and concubines. If anything can be classified as normal just because that seems to be what turns somebody on sexually and one is not allowed to ‘discriminate’ because that is ‘who they are’, then that means that everything is normal under the umbrella of “who are you to say what is normal and what is not?”

Folks should all read Jeremiah chapter 2 to see what God thinks of this state of affairs of which this is just a sampling. In verse 22 there is the use of the word ‘iniquity’ as opposed to using the word ‘sin’. As has often explained to me, there is a difference….. Iniquity is the root, sin is the fruit. Jeremiah 2:21 Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me? 22 For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord God.

12 posted on 02/20/2015 2:36:38 PM PST by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

That is certainly the case here in north Jersey; the schools are closing and being sold/rented (usually to public school districts - same kids, but a secular education).

Very short-sighted to close them; they have written off the next generation of Catholics, and are now hoping they can transfer a new bunch from south of the border. In my experience, these newcomers aren’t here to contribute - either to a tax base or a parish.


13 posted on 02/20/2015 2:49:32 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: marshmallow

Saint Paul was trying (successfully as it would turn out) to argue against Biblical circumcision. Needless to say, he met with a lot of objections since the Scriptures were quite clear on the subject. Paul got a bit exasperated with it all and said he hoped his opponents on this subject would experience a slip of their knives,

....” I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!” (Galatians 5:12, NIV makes it clearest of the popular translations)

If this sentiment was good enough for Saint Paul to express, its good enough for us...as regards, here, the Legislators who are trying to boss the ArchBishop around on matters of Church faith and administration.


14 posted on 02/20/2015 3:01:50 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..).)
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To: hecticskeptic

The way I learned it was that sin = hamartia, “missing the mark.” Wrong but you don’t even it’s wrong, like marrying your mother.

Iniquity is wrong that you know is wrong but do it anyway.


15 posted on 02/20/2015 3:06:26 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Steve_Seattle

That’s true - they’ve sold out to the Regressives.

Cordileone (literally, Heart of a Lion) is one of the few remaining exception. And with this Pope in charge he won’t be around long.


16 posted on 02/20/2015 5:24:13 PM PST by aquila48
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To: scrabblehack

I don’t think that I can agree with this…. first of all, hamartia has a few definitions but most commonly, it’s defined as a ‘flaw in one’s character’. Somehow I don’t think this is synonymous with sin which is a ‘willful or deliberate violation of a Godly principle or to put it another way, direct transgression that runs counter to how God wants us to live our lives’. I think that sin can be considered to be the direct action while iniquity was the depraved thinking that lead up to that action. Let’s take an obvious example…. The act of murder is an obvious and direct violation against God’s law for how we are to live. Jealousy and covetousness might have been the iniquity that caused on to commit that murder. Hence…. Sin is the fruit but iniquity is the root. Titus 2:14 says this….. “Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.” In other words, we can be thankful that God not only can cleanse us from our sins, He can take away the depraved thinking that lead us to commit those sins….. a purifying of the mind. This is also the thought in Romans 12:2 “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”


17 posted on 02/20/2015 7:10:23 PM PST by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: hecticskeptic

Strangely enough throughout the Greek New Testament (the original) the word for sin is hamartia. In fact I could not find an instance of the word sin that wasn’t translated by hamartia or a related verb or adjective.


18 posted on 02/20/2015 8:17:58 PM PST by scrabblehack
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