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Posted on 02/20/2015 12:33:03 PM PST by RnMomof7
you’re not answering my questions. You confidently told me that Christ is forever being sacrificed but can’t answer my questions?
I hope the ignorance that's just been displayed by that paragraph is invincible. How can you write something like that and expect any Catholic to take you seriously when you offer your opinions about the Catholic Church? If you're so completely wrong on that subject (and you are) then how can you be believed on any other?
My kids can answer those questions... sheesh.
A mortal sin requires three conditions: The object is grave matter. It is committed with full knowledge. It is done with deliberate consent.
Nobody is accidentally going to hell. Nobody who dies on the way to Confession is going to hell because of some freak accident. God is not looking for ways to send us to hell, He's pulled out all the stops to make attaining Heaven dead simple. Love Him, that's what we're made for. Love Him more than you love yourself and you're headed for glory.
It can't be symbolic of His body and blood. It's symbolic of "eating" or internalizing His word just as "eating the scroll" was symbolic of reading and internalizing the word of God. Christ was not talking about His physical flesh and blood but of the word.
Dude...did you see the list of titles Mary's been given by the rcc?
Have you seen the prayers to her?
Have you seen the buildings named after her?
Have you seen the statues of Mary in the catholic churches?
Have you seen the schools that studies Mariology? There's even one that offers a Masters in Theological Studies with a Marian concentration!http://catalog.udayton.edu/graduate/imri/
That's not veneration....it's worship.
Jesus puts John in charge of taking care of His mom and suddenly she's the mother of all disciples??? Now that's a stretch.
Jesus was indicating who had responsibility for Mary's well-being in this situation.
It is believed that Joseph is dead at this point. We also know there was disbelief among His step brothers and sisters regarding Who He was at this point. Jesus put Mary under the care of one who loved Him.
Not surprising to see Him do this.
Notice He didn't put her in Peter's care. Why?
When you got married it says you are one. Does that mean you are both the same person? Can you never be apart?
Amen. Pinging to LurkingSince’98 since it might be of some instruction...
Hoss
You keep asking questions but don’t answer mine. What’s up with that?
Absolutely! Great way to put it. And the point is that he laid down his life -- past tense -- he doesn't "continue to lay down his life" -- Roman Catholicism wants to continually crucify him.
Very sad.
Thanks Met!
Hoss
Worship requires a sacrifice made to the object of adoration, there is only one Sacrifice in Catholicism, and that is the sacrifice of the eternal High Priest and Victim and that sacrifice is offered to God the Father, not the Mother of God.
Again, if you're not offering a sacrifice you're not worshiping... you may be praising or something but by definition the act is not worship.
Hebrews 13:15 Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise--the fruit of lips that openly profess his name.
Catholics offer the sacrifice of praise to Mary all the time. And they make images of God in the likeness of man.
Romans 1:21-23 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
The Bible I use to study with is the NASV and verse 30 of Eph 5 does not include “of His flesh and of His bones” and there is a notation in my mother’s Catholic Bible that it is not included in the best Greek manuscripts.
I am always cautious of basing a big part of my theology on certain parts of scripture when notated in that manner, especially the section where Jesus talks about casting the first stone. Too many people do not warn others of hell because of that section.
Nobody is accidentally going to hell. Nobody who dies on the way to Confession is going to hell because of some freak accident.
Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God's law; it turns man away from God, who is his ultimate end and his beatitude, by preferring an inferior good to him.... Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God's forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ's kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back.(Catechism, 1855 & 1861) http://www.beginningcatholic.com/mortal-sin.html
I hope the ignorance that's just been displayed by that paragraph is invincible. How can you write something like that and expect any Catholic to take you seriously when you offer your opinions about the Catholic Church? If you're so completely wrong on that subject (and you are) then how can you be believed on any other?
I think we've addressed that question.
Now that we've shown what Catholicism teaches, and it does teach if you've committed a mortal sin and it has not been confessed you do not go to Heaven, what do you do?
As I said, if I were catholic, I'd camp out at the door of the priest.
The Bible says:
13When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, 14having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Eating pork O.K. Now??, does a man still have to be circumcised???/ does a person with leprosy or any communicable disease have to tear his clothong and wander through the streets shouting to those around him "UNCLEAN-UNCLEAN-UNCLEAN"......wasn't there something about animals without cloven hooves....and are women having their periods somehow unclean????
Yes...so what....there have been priests who have made VERY bad decisions in their lives.....just like the rest of us.
We are not under the old law. Jesus and the apostles were. Besides, Acts 15 still has the prohibition against eating blood.
>>does a man still have to be circumcised???<<
He most certainly did while Christ was still alive and so He was.
Scripture says Christ followed the Old Testament laws which He was born under. If He hadn't He would not have been the sinless sacrifice.
What do you "offer as a sacrifice to Christ?"
Worship in the NT included prayers, kneeling, etc. You know, the stuff catholics do with Mary.
BTW....first I've heard about having to offer a sacrifice to Christ from catholics....or anyone else. Unless we're heading back to the OT.
And for you, too.
You do realize that God forgives sin as soon as we repent don’t you? Confession is the ordinary means established by the Church for the reconciliation of sinners to the Body of Christ. God works in extraordinary ways.
You seem to think you know a lot about what Catholicism teaches... you just don’t seem to get the actual teaching.
The Mass is the Sacrifice offered to God the Father, it is one and the same Sacrifice as that offered by Our Lord on the Cross. Same spotless Victim, same eternal High Priest.
I’m willing to be corrected by the Church but I don’t think the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity is worshiped technically... adored yes, but the Sacrifice is offered to the Father by the Son through the Holy Ghost. The only act of divine worship is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, everything else is secondary. I’ve got a priest on the way over here in a few minutes, I’ll ask him and if I’ve screwed it up I’ll let you know.
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