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To: stinkerpot65
Men arguing over man-made traditions ...

Actually, it comes from the Bible. The liturgical use of ashes originates in Old Testament times. Ashes symbolized mourning, mortality and penance. For instance, in the Book of Esther, Mordecai put on sackcloth and ashes when he heard of the decree of King Ahasuerus (or Xerxes, 485-464 B.C.) of Persia to kill all of the Jewish people in the Persian Empire (Est 4:1). Job (whose story was written between the 7th and 5th centuries B.C.) repented in sackcloth and ashes (Job 42:6). Prophesying the Babylonian captivity of Jerusalem, Daniel (c. 550 B.C.) wrote, "I turned to the Lord God, pleading in earnest prayer, with fasting, sackcloth and ashes" (Dn 9:3).

Jesus Himself also made reference to ashes. Referring to towns that refused to repent of sin although they had witnessed the miracles and heard the good news, our Lord said, "If the miracles worked in you had taken place in Tyre and Sidon, they would have reformed in sackcloth and ashes long ago" (Mt 11:21).

87 posted on 02/18/2015 6:15:10 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer; stinkerpot65
He also said if you do it publicly to be seen of men you already have your reward in full.

Matthew 6:16 "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 17 But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, 18 so that it will not be obvious to others that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Not a good sign for Catholics who make such a public thing of it..

89 posted on 02/18/2015 6:20:44 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: NYer

“For instance, in the Book of Esther, Mordecai put on sackcloth and ashes when he heard of the decree of King Ahasuerus (or Xerxes, 485-464 B.C.) of Persia to kill all of the Jewish people in the Persian Empire (Est 4:1).”

All the early pictures of Mordecai show him with an identical little thumb smudge of ashes in the middle of his forehead.

Will you also be donning your sackcloth - which is equally biblical by your standard - as you wear your smudge??


116 posted on 02/18/2015 7:15:48 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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