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To: GreyFriar; CynicalBear
C-B, I have never heard that the Catholic Church as said that those who have never heard of Christ are saved; but then I’m not Catholic. Just a Protestant who believes in Jesus and doing as He taught, as best I can.

Yup. It was doctrine before Vatican 2.

At Vatican 2 they made exceptions but still do teach that there is no salvation outside the Catholic church and it states so right in their Catechism of the Catholic church.

Scroll down about a third of the way and you'll see it right there in print between numbers 845 and 846.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337

199 posted on 02/19/2015 8:24:41 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; rwa265; CynicalBear

Thus from posts 198 and 199, if the Catholic Church takes the teaching of Christ and makes it “doctrine” then it is automatically wrong?

That is the only conclusion I can come to based upon the reasoning you have presented.


205 posted on 02/19/2015 9:19:21 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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