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To: Elsie; metmom; daniel1212; CynicalBear; Gamecock; RnMomof7; Iscool; Salvation; NYer; ...
The rot of the roman catholic cult goes deeper than I thought. These are all catholic saints with a few popes mixed in as well. These are all from the following catholic website.

http://www.catholictradition.org/Saints/saintly-quotes23.htm

Pay attention to the comments about how "impossible" it is to be lost for one who follows Mary; that confidence in Mary is a sure sign of salvation; that those who are devout to Mary will never be lost.

Also note in the first quote that it is Mary who initiates salvation for people...when she wishes. There are several in this category.

This would be in line with the fifth marian dogma of the catholic view of the role mary plays in our "salvation".

The honest student of the Word will recognize that you cannot find any support for any of these false doctrines in the Bible. And please, let's not try the appeal of "if you're following Mary you're really following her Son". That is such a bogus statement.

This is why Christians eschew the catholic cult claim to tradition. It gets you these kinds of lies.

No wonder they're pushing for the fifth marian dogma. The apostacy continues in catholicism.

Will any catholic disavow any of these claims??

OUR LADY AND SALVATION

... There is no one, however wicked, whom Mary does not save by her intercession when she wishes ... He who has recourse to Mary shall be saved. -St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori

No one, not even a sinner, who devoutly recommends himself to her shall ever become the prey of Hell. -St. Catherine of Siena

However great a sinner may have been, if he shows himself devout to Mary he will never perish. -St. Hilary of Poitiers

Mary was made Mother of God to obtain salvation for many who, on account of their wicked lives, could not be saved according to the rigor of Divine justice, but might be saved with the help of her sweet mercy and powerful intercession. -St. John Chrysostom

The Saints assert that anyone who prays to the Mother of God in time of temptation will be preserved from sin, and that whoever approaches her with perfect trust throughout his life will surely be saved. -St. Maximilian Mary Kolbe

My children, if you desire perseverance, be devout to our Blessed Lady. -St. Philip Neri

Mary obtains salvation for all who have recourse to her. Oh! If all sinners had recourse to Mary, who would ever be lost? ... He who is protected by her will be saved; he who is not will be lost. -St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori

It is impossible to be saved without the help of the Most Blessed Virgin, because those who are not saved by the justice of God are saved by the intercession of Mary. -St. John Chrysostom

We believe that Mary opens the abyss of God's mercy to whomsoever she wills, when she wills, and as she wills; so that there is no sinner however great who is lost if Mary protects him. -St. Bonaventure

Hell is not the lot of any true client of Mary for whom she prays even once, and for whom she says to her Son that she wishes him to be saved ... It is sufficient that you desire our salvation, O Mary, and we cannot help but be saved. -St. Anselm

He who is devout to the Virgin Mother will certainly never be lost. -St. Ignatius of Antioch

Not one of those who love her can perish; not one of those who try to imitate her can fail to attain eternal salvation. -St. John Eudes

Not a single soul who has really persevered in her service has ever been damned. -St. Louis Marie de Montfort

No one who shall invoke this Mother of Grace with devotion and perseverance can possibly perish forever. -St. John Eudes

By Mary, God descended from Heaven into the world, so that by her men might ascend from earth into Heaven. -St. Fulgentius

The sign of those who will be saved consists in this: that they have a great devotion to Mary in their hearts. -Bl. John of Avila

I believe that devotion to thee, O Lady, is a certain sign of eternal salvation. -St. Gabriel of the Most Sorrowful Virgin

Devotion to Mary is a sure sign of predestination to him who possesses it. -Bl. Alan de la Roche

Mary is the Mysterious Book of Predestination to glory. -St. Frances Xavier Cabrini Love of Mary and devotion to her are a sure sign of obtaining eternal salvation. -St. Bernard

O Mother of Perpetual Help, confidence in thee is a certain pledge of everlasting salvation. -Bl. Pope Pius IX

O Mother of God! If I place my confidence in thee, I shall be saved; if I am under thy protection, I have nothing to fear; for the fact of being thy client is a possession of a certainty of salvation which God grants only to those whom He intends to save. -St. John Damascene

O Most Blessed Virgin, just as everyone who hates thee and is forgotten by thee must necessarily perish, so also must everyone who loves thee and is loved by thee necessarily be saved! -St. Bonaventure

O how long ago the earth would have been destroyed, if Mary had not interposed! -St. Fulgentius

Hail, Mary, gracious Mother of Mercy; who would not love thee? Thou are our certain salvation! -Ven. Pope Pius XII

She is the eldest daughter of the Great King. If you enjoy her favor, she will introduce you to the Monarch of the Universe. No one has so great an interest with Him than Mary, who was the occasion of His coming down from Heaven to become man for the redemtion of mankind. -St. John the Almoner

If you wish to walk securely and be certain of your salvation, if you aspire to a great crown in Heaven that will never fade, love and honor Mary, and strive to make her known, loved, and honored by others. -St. Joseph Cafasso

Just as it is impossible for one who is not devout to Mary, and consequently not protected by her, to be saved, so is it impossible for one who recommends himself to her, and consequently is beloved by her, to be lost. -St. Anselm

No, he can never be lost who recommends himself to thee, O Mary. -St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori

If she protects you, you have nothing to fear, for you cannot be lost. -St. Bernard

A true servant of Mary cannot be lost. -St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori

Being thy servant, O Mary, is a surety of salvation God grants solely to those He will save. -St. Andrew of Crete

Whoever bears the mark of a servant of Mary is already enrolled in the Book of Life. -St. Bonaventure

254 posted on 02/15/2015 10:38:11 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; paladinan; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
Pay attention to the comments about how "impossible" it is to be lost for one who follows Mary; that confidence in Mary is a sure sign of salvation; that those who are devout to Mary will never be lost.

...is it impossible for one who recommends himself to her, and consequently is beloved by her, to be lost. -St. Anselm

Thus what is impossible for a believer in Christ according to RCs, that of confidence of final salvation, is possible for for a believer in Mary.

Hell is not the lot of any true client of Mary for whom she prays even once, and for whom she says to her Son that she wishes him to be saved ... It is sufficient that you desire our salvation, O Mary, and we cannot help but be saved. -St. Anselm

So in addition to the parallels to Christ given to Mary , as God is sovereign, so is Mary.

All such attributions of Divine attributes to Mary are one of the examples of the fruit which the alternative to Scripture being the supreme standard for Truth, that being sola ecclesia, produces, out of which are seen the worst heresies, with cults such as the LDS also basically operating out of as well.

263 posted on 02/15/2015 11:32:49 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: ealgeone

What a pack of lies......

ABJ - Anything but Jesus.


269 posted on 02/15/2015 12:08:49 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone

The church of Mariolitry!


273 posted on 02/15/2015 12:19:37 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ealgeone; jobim; DuncanWaring
http://www.catholictradition.org/Saints/saintly-quotes23.htm

Perhaps you are not aware but you are referencing a web site from the sspx which is in schism.

Insofar as Mary as intercessor, the saintly quotes you posted, need to be placed in context. Most of the time in the Bible, God chooses to do His work through a human, whether it's Moses, Jacob, Joseph of the Old Testament, or one of the Prophets like Isaiah or Elisha. It's no different with Mary. God allowed salvation in the person of Jesus Christ to enter into the world through Mary, even though he could have just appeared all on his own. In like manner, it shows great humility on our part to approach Jesus in the exact same way that He approached us - Through Mary. After all, if Jesus was obedient to Mary for 30 years of his life here on earth, shouldn't we imitate Him in that respect? If Mary was good enough for Jesus, who are we to say that she isn't good enough for us? Jesus Himself said that "No servant is greater than His Master".

If one is lost and needs to get somewhere, the best thing to do is to find someone who knows the way better than anyone else. Most of mankind is lost, and needs to find Jesus. Mary is the one person who knows the way better than anyone else, because she and Jesus shared the same body for 9 months, Jesus was subject to her for 30 years, they probably even look alike, and they are of one accord. Getting close to Mary is the fastest and best way to get close to Jesus. It's pure folly to even think that by getting close to Mary you are somehow getting farther away from Jesus. Jesus got his sacred Body and his precious Blood from MARY!


... behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed. - Lk 1:48

296 posted on 02/15/2015 1:58:05 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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