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Bowing the Knee to Rome
The Berean Call ^ | February 1, 2015 | T.A. McMahon

Posted on 02/13/2015 10:04:31 AM PST by WXRGina

We live in strange times. When I became a born-again believer nearly four decades ago following thirty years as a Roman Catholic, not one non-Catholic Christian chided me for leaving the Church of Rome. In those days it was fairly obvious to evangelicals that the teachings and practices of Roman Catholicism were at odds with the teachings of the Bible. Yes, there were a few things, at least superficially, that Catholics and Bible-believing Christians held in common. The virgin birth of Christ, which involved the conception of Jesus by the Holy Spirit, is one example. Yet, regarding Christ’s miraculous birth, the Catholic Church added to the virgin Mary the dogmas of her Immaculate Conception, i.e., her having been conceived without sin, and her perpetual virginity. Although those extra-biblical teachings are serious errors, they do not directly contradict the gospel that is essential for salvation.

I would hope that everyone who is reading this article, (particularly if they profess to be Bible-believing Christians) has understood and received the true gospel, which requires the belief (and belief alone) that Jesus, through His sacrificial death and resurrection, paid the penalty for sin in full for every man, woman, and child. That is the gospel that the Bible teaches explicitly in more than one hundred verses and implies in hundreds more. However, that is not the gospel according to the Roman Catholic Church. In truth, the Catholic Church’s opposition to the biblical gospel in its teachings and practices has been made evident through its councils and murderous inquisitions down through history.

During the Reformation, many individuals (primarily former Catholics) worked to restore the biblical gospel. In truth, it had never ceased to be believed by a remnant outside the Catholic Church. Yet the Reformation helped to get the Scriptures back into the hands of multitudes of believers. In response, the Church of Rome made its official position on the gospel crystal clear in its counter-reformation Council of Trent (1545-1563). Here are just three of the so-called infallible Council’s more than one-hundred condemnations for those who believe what the Bible teaches about the gospel: “If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification...let him be anathema” (6th Session, Canon 9). It is because the Catholic Church requires far more than faith for salvation that it must anathematize (condemn) those who reject its sacramental works.

“If anyone shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy which remits sins for Christ’s sake, or that it is this confidence alone by which we are justified: let him be anathema” (6th Session, Canon 12). Again we see that according to Rome, belief alone in Christ’s finished sacrifice on the cross is condemned.

“If anyone says that after the reception of the grace of justification the guilt is so remitted and the debt of eternal punishment so blotted out to every repentant sinner, that no debt of temporal punishment remains to be discharged either in this world or in purgatory before the gates of heaven can be opened, let him be anathema” (6th Session, Canon 30). Though many Catholics wrongly believe that their Church has moved beyond the declarations of its Councils such as Trent, they nevertheless cling steadfastly to the necessity of Purgatory in the hope of burning off their residue of sins, thus making them fit to enter Heaven. That is a rejection of the finished work of Christ and therefore a “gospel” that will save no one.

It is essential for everyone who claims to be a Christian and says that they love Roman Catholics—and who believe that most Catholics are saved simply because they “love Jesus”—to understand the official Catholic “gospel” (which every Catholic is obligated to believe) and to realize how diametrically opposed it is to the biblical gospel. To truly love Jesus means to love Him as the Scriptures declare: “And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life” (1 John:5:20). The Catholic “Jesus,” who did not pay the full penalty for sin and who remains on crucifixes above the altars in Catholic churches is said to be “immolated” during the Mass. Immolation means to be killed—and not simply as a symbolic gesture, according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church: “The sacrifice of the altar, then, is no mere empty commemoration of Calvary, but a true and proper act of sacrifice, whereby Christ the high priest by an unbloody immolation offers himself a most acceptable victim to the eternal Father, as he did on the cross. ‘It is one and the same victim; the same person now offers it by the ministry of his [Catholic] priests, who then offered himself on the cross. Only the manner of offering is different’” (pp. 445-46). This direct denial of the finished sacrifice of Christ takes place daily on millions of Catholic altars in clear-cut contradiction to Hebrews:10:10: “By [God’s will] we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”

The truth is that if we honestly love Catholics and want them to receive the forgiveness of their sins and the gift of eternal life that Jesus has paid for and that He offers through a simple act of faith on their part, then any form of encouraging the false gospel of Rome (no matter how well-intentioned) by those who profess to know Christ is a betrayal of the truth and insures for Catholics eternal separation from God. Tragically, that leaven of compromise is what has been infiltrating the church for the last three decades.

Through its newsletter articles and resource materials over many years, TBC has addressed such lethal appeasement of Roman Catholic dogmas by highly visible leaders in their evangelism efforts—men such as Billy Graham, who used Catholic priests and nuns as counselors at his crusades; Bill Bright, who placed practicing Catholics in Campus Crusade leadership positions in Ireland; and Luis Palau, who collaborated with Catholics in South America. Under the leadership of Chuck Colson and Catholic priest Richard John Neuhaus, among others, influential evangelical and Catholic leaders signed the Evangelicals and Catholics Together document, thereby committing themselves to working together to convert the world to Christ. Promise Keepers, led by Roman Catholic Bill McCartney, strived to break down the historic wall of division between Catholics and non-Catholic Christians. Hank Hanegraaff’s Christian Research Journal ran a series on Roman Catholicism, declaring that the Church held a biblical view of justification by faith. It was written in part by apologist Norm Geisler and defended by Hanegraaff on his radio program, claiming that the gospel of Rome is fundamentally biblical. Tridentine Catholic movie writer and director Mel Gibson won the hearts of multitudes of evangelicals with his The Passion of the Christ, which was based on the sacred Catholic ritual of the Stations of the Cross, a rite that is dedicated to Mary as co-redemptrix with Jesus.

Dave Hunt, writing about the response to the death of Pope John Paul II, noted,

The praise heaped on the pope upon his death by evangelical leaders is incomprehensible! Incredibly, Billy Graham praised John Paul II for “his strong Catholic faith.” Increasing numbers of evangelicals are joining Colson, [J. I.] Packer, Billy Graham, and others in accepting as fellow Christians Roman Catholics who embrace this false gospel…. Pat Robertson said that “the most beloved religious leader of our age [has passed] from this world to his much-deserved eternal reward.”…Mark Oestreicher, president of Youth Specialties, called the pope’s death “a key point in history where we have the opportunity to embrace [Catholics as] fellow children of God.” That is like failing to set up flares and warning signs for motorists traveling along a highway where a bridge is out and waving them on to their death instead!

Like Billy Graham, Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptists’ Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, emphasized that any disagreements Protestants may have had “with John Paul II are [irrelevant] to the foundations of the faith.” Land praised the pope’s “staunch defense of traditional Christian faith....” Yet John Paul II, on more than one occasion, gathered together for prayer witch doctors, spiritists, animists, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, and other leaders of world religions, declared that they were all “praying to the same God” and credited their prayers with generating “profound spiritual energies” that would create a “new climate for peace.”

The 4,000-member Evangelical Philosophical Society’s president Francis Beckwith resigned to return to his Catholic roots (with the official blessing of EPS’s leadership). Rick Warren brought his Purpose Driven church-growth program to the Catholic Church showing no apparent concern for that church’s false gospel.

But that was then; so what is the situation now? Anyone who is saddened over what has taken place in the recent past, e.g., the blatant disregard of the biblical gospel as the only hope for the salvation of mankind, should be deeply grieved at what’s taking place today. The Vatican appears to be turning up the heat in its efforts to romance “Protestants,” a misnomer for non-Catholic Christians. Vatican II’s declaration referring to baptized non-Catholic Christians as “separated brethren,” a change from their having been referred to historically as “heretics” as defined by the Council of Trent, has been surprisingly successful in endearing many evangelical leaders to Rome. There is a saying related to this approach that is borne out in the Church of Rome’s practice: “Rome, when in minority is as gentle as a lamb, when in equality is as clever as a fox, and when in the majority is as fierce as a tiger.” We seem to be in the “clever as a fox” stage here in the US, if what is taking place is any indication.

The “retired” Benedict XVI, the former prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (with its roots in the Roman Inquisition), surprised many by his extraordinary ecumenical efforts as pope. Doctrine became a nonissue, at least on the surface. His successor, Pope Francis, has not only followed the lead of popes John XXIII, John Paul II, and Benedict, but he has put ecumenism in warp speed. Early last year, Francis sent an iPhone video greeting to the audience at a Kenneth Copeland Conference via Anglican-Episcopal bishop Tony Palmer (now deceased), who was also a director of the Kenneth Copeland Ministries in South Africa. For those not aware, Copeland and his wife, Gloria, have led millions into their unbiblical prosperity-and-health doctrines, which feature a false gospel and “another” Jesus who paid for sins by being tortured by Satan in hell. The greeting led to an invitation from the pope to Copeland and some of his false teaching compatriots (James Robison, Geoff Tunnicliff, John and Carol Arnott) to meet with him at the Vatican. Influential Charismatic mystic and false prophet Kim Clement declared that God told him that He had chosen Pope Francis to bring Spirit-filled Protestants and Catholics together.

Rick Warren has hardly taken a back seat on the journey to Rome. In a series of interviews that he gave last year to EWTN, the Catholic network (which, by the way, he confessed was one of his favorite TV channels), Rick defended Catholicism and attempted to explain the misconceptions held by evangelicals. In keeping with his unbiblical Global P.E.A.C.E. Plan, which stresses the cooperation of the world’s religions, he spoke at the Vatican’s International Religious Colloquium on the Complementarity of Man and Woman. He later “called for adherents of various Christian denominations to unite with Roman Catholics and Pope Francis to work together on three shared goals, focusing on the sanctity of life, the sanctity of sex, and the sanctity of marriage” (http://www.aleteia.org/en/religion/article/megachurch-pastor-rick-warren-joins-pope-francis-in-support-of-common-mission).

Hopefully, every believer reading this is asking “What of the sanctity of the biblical gospel?” Without that, all other attempts at “sanctity” are a temporal delusion and an eternal tragedy! Yet fewer and fewer of those who profess to be Bible-believing Christians seem to be concerned about this and are comfortable with what has become Warren’s ecumenical mantra: “If you love Jesus,” he claims, “we’re on the same team.”

If you are puzzled or perhaps even dazed by what’s going on in Christendom, the Scriptures supply the answers: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (2 Timothy:4:3-4). Where sound doctrine has given way to experientialism, subjectivism, and emotionalism, as it has among the millions of followers of the false Signs and Wonders teachings, biblical discernment has been abandoned; being a Berean is impossible.

However, hyper-Charismatics and Pentecostals are not the only ones ripe for Rome’s seduction. Consider again conservative theologian Francis Beckwith, the former head of the Evangelical Philosophical Society who returned to his earlier Catholic faith (emphasis added). How could he have done this if he had truly understood and received the simple and foundationally sound doctrine of salvation? How could one rationally give up the unfathomable free gift that Christ provided and turn instead to a salvation by works—unless he had never received that gift? You could also ask how Beckwith could have been elected president of such a prestigious “Protestant” organization.

Beckwith, however, provides some insights that are reflective of the attitude and beliefs of most Christians today. When asked if he thought the historic hostility between Catholics and evangelicals is eroding, his response was: “Yes. I think it is largely the result of working together on cultural questions [Rick Warren’s approach], which has led to more careful and charitable reading of each other’s beliefs. So, for example, it is rare today to a find a serious Evangelical accusing the Catholic Church of believing in ‘works righteousness.’ Sure, the more flamboyant voices say such things, but most sophisticated Evangelicals do not take them seriously” (The Catholic World Report 11/5/2014). “Flamboyant voice” here refers to a vocal, narrow-minded fundamentalist, versus “sophisticated Evangelical,” which describes one who takes “more careful and charitable reading of each other’s beliefs.” Tragically, such a mindset is the growing trend among professing evangelicals.

I thank Jesus every day that the evangelicals who witnessed to me more than three decades ago loved me enough to reject such soul-damning “sophistication” and to minister to me in truth. For this I am eternally grateful, and I pray that my fellow believers will do the same for their Catholic acquaintances, friends, and loved ones.


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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I guess this person is not one of The Elect. Obviously the essayist believes incorrectly (according to Reformed doctrine) that he needed to perform some act (becoming born-again) in order to receive the Lord's grace.

Sucks for him.

Guess you disagree with Jesus and John on this issue of being born again. Might want to read the book of John for some clarity on this.

21 posted on 02/13/2015 11:32:57 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

It’s not me. It’s the Calvinists.


22 posted on 02/13/2015 11:34:16 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: delchiante

Eveidently someone can`t read Hebrew, latin and NT greek here, and it ain`t me.


23 posted on 02/13/2015 11:42:28 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

If one “becomes” something, it is not necessarily through your own effort.

If my father dies, for example, I might “become” the nominal head of our family, just by default, and not through any action of my own. Or, if my boss decides to promote me, I may “become” an executive, but not through any action on my part.


24 posted on 02/13/2015 11:49:31 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: bunkerhill7

I like that expert translators in those languages can just decide Joshua was a perfect substitution for the Greco/roman/Latin name Jesus in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8

And that change has occurred in 400 years since the 1599 Geneva bible came out.. I never would have seen that without that bible and a concordance that showed no ‘Joshua’s in the new testament..

And now, translations have given us two.. and they replaced the sacred name Jesus in two spots.

Maybe the name Jesus is also just a roman tradition if translators can take the Greek and do no translation work.. just sort of look to the old testament English transliteration and delete Jesus in two spots..


25 posted on 02/13/2015 11:51:47 AM PST by delchiante
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
"Obviously the essayist believes incorrectly (according to Reformed doctrine) that he needed to perform some act (becoming born-again) in order to receive the Lord's grace."

Given that Jesus specifically said one MUST be born again to see the kingdom of God I'd says that a pretty solid belief. And it is an act performed by God not man.

26 posted on 02/13/2015 11:52:08 AM PST by circlecity
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To: WXRGina

Greetings, all. I have been following Free Republic for more than a decade but had never felt the need to interject or respond until now. Full disclosure: I am a rarity, a Pro-life, Conservative, Anti-gay marriage, pro traditional family, and Roman Catholic COLLEGE PROFESSOR. Yes, sometimes it is kind of lonely being the only one of my kind on campus. Anyway, over the past few days there have been many posts from both sides on the Sola Scriptura issue and other issues regarding the Roman Catholic Church and other Christian Churches, and I guess I begin with a request that this bickering stop—we conservatives have larger, much more dangerous problems to confront, like a president who is leading us down the slippery slope to oblivion who would (as Dr. Sowell has said) surrender if a major U.S. city was hit with a nuclear weapon; we also have an Islam problem—I am now 51% certain that Islam is NOT a religion at all. So I think, as Moff Tarkin says, “This bickering is pointless.” We have a mortal enemy and that enemy is not whether communion is the body and blood of Christ or whether congregational singing should be accompanied by musical instruments or not. That enemy is a force that would deny us the right to worship God as we see fit, and frankly, that is the scariest part of all.


27 posted on 02/13/2015 11:54:55 AM PST by englishprof302
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To: Steelfish

“The Catholic Church instead claims that it and it alone has the authority and responsibility of infallibly pointing out which books comprise the Biblical canon already authored by God.”

The problem is that, if you read the books that they pointed out, some are not in accord with the totality of Scripture, so the idea of their infallibility on this issue is untenable.


28 posted on 02/13/2015 12:08:48 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: WXRGina; All

Concerning the title of this thread, “bowing the knee to Rome,” and the Tony Palmer-Ken Copeland-Pope Francis incident (mentioned in the article), I’d like to point out something along those lines. You can see and hear Francis’ address to the Copeland people for yourself, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrS4IDTLavQ

The Anglican bishop Tony Palmer gave the keynote address, positioning himself as a kind of John the Baptist preparing the way for Pope Francis. Then came the Pope’s address to the crowd gathered there, in it, he said something most revealing having to do with the role he would play on the world scene.

He saw himself as Joseph empowered in Egypt, his brothers as “separated brethren” ignorant of who he was or what he was doing. To bring unity between Joseph (representing the RCC) and his separated brethren (representing Protestants), his brethren needed to recognize Joseph as their brother, and then “bow the knee” to him (to bring unity, Protestants must recognize Pope Francis’ role as the great unifier, then bow the knee to Rome).

I’ve got news for the Copeland idiots, the Jesuit Francis and his RCC, we know what you are up to, there are a great many of us who WON’T BE BOWING OUR KNEES TO ROME!

I find it interesting, observing the Jesuit Francis has been doing in the world ever since this revealing speech he gave at the Copeland meeting.

He, like Joseph in Egypt, sees himself in a unique position of power on the world stage to bring to pass “Joseph’s vision.” To those who know their Bibles, Joseph had certain dreams about his brethren eventually bowing down before him.

BEWARE OF THIS POPE!


29 posted on 02/13/2015 12:11:40 PM PST by sasportas
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

“... the Virgin birth isn’t just the virgin giving birth, it’s her hymen never rupturing...”

I just can’t imagine why Christians would worry about the state of Mary’s hymen, much less to the point of enshrining some assessment of its condition in doctrine that they are willing to divide the church over.


30 posted on 02/13/2015 12:13:02 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: sasportas

Correction:

I find it interesting, observing what the Jesuit Francis has been doing in the world ever since this revealing speech he gave at the Copeland meeting.


31 posted on 02/13/2015 12:15:07 PM PST by sasportas
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To: englishprof302

“we conservatives have larger, much more dangerous problems to confront...”

Christians don’t believe that the matters of the world are larger or more pressing than spiritual matters, in fact, just the opposite. The entire world could be on fire, but the condition of our souls would be more urgent.


32 posted on 02/13/2015 12:16:10 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: delchiante

Some originals were written in Aramaic, not greek- so maybe the syriac versions are more accurate. All we have are copies of originals in greek. The Ethiopian and Coptic copies may be closer also.


33 posted on 02/13/2015 12:20:21 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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To: cuban leaf; Boogieman

Without belief in the Eucharist as the true body and blood of Christ the rest is all inconsequential. Without Petrine authority, every Tom. Dick, and Harry and their grandmother gets to interpret the “Word of God” as “they” see fit and sometimes with deadly consequences like with the faiths of the Jim Jones and David Koresh, or those who use Scripture to avoid medical treatment for their ailing children.


34 posted on 02/13/2015 12:23:21 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Yep, with freedom comes responsibility. But don’t worry. You can trust God to steer you straight, assuming one prays for wisdom.

I firmly believe in YOPIOS. It’s what’s for breakfast!


35 posted on 02/13/2015 12:26:15 PM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Steelfish

“Without Petrine authority...”

Well, with “Petrine authority”, you are misled into believing falsehoods that you aren’t allowed to question. No thanks, I could become a Mormon or Jehovah’s Witness if I wanted that.


36 posted on 02/13/2015 12:26:54 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I guess this person is not one of The Elect. Obviously the essayist believes incorrectly (according to Reformed doctrine) that he needed to perform some act (becoming born-again) in order to receive the Lord's grace.

Sucks for him.


I hope you are saying that sarcastically in reference to the hyper - Calvinist. Otherwise, what did Jesus mean in John 3:3-7

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”

37 posted on 02/13/2015 12:27:05 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: cuban leaf

David Koresh, Jim Jones, the Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses all “prayed for wisdom”

Either you accept Petrine authority (as my earlier post shows the basis of infallible authority for the canonical text) or you don’t. If you don’t then what makes you think the Church correctly chose the books you and I call the Bible? They may have mistakenly included some, and excluded others?

This Petrine authority did not evaporate with the Reformation.


38 posted on 02/13/2015 12:30:45 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Boogieman

Well, at least you admit, you, and anybody else like David Koresh or Jim Jones, or the Mormons can get to pick and choose and follow what “you” think is God’s Word. If Petrine authority was the very basis of authenticity of text in selecting what writings were part or not a part of the canonical texts, this infallible authority did not suddenly evaporate with the Reformation. Christ spoke one truth, not many truths, and established one Church without error until the end of time to declare His word.


39 posted on 02/13/2015 12:34:35 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

“Well, at least you admit, you, and anybody else like David Koresh or Jim Jones, or the Mormons can get to pick and choose and follow what “you” think is God’s Word.”

Yes, I don’t think religious freedom is anything to be ashamed of. I’m sorry if you don’t feel the same.

“this infallible authority...”

I already told you that I believe it is demonstrably fallible, since some of the books that were chosen are irreconcilable with other books. If the authority was infallible, it would not produce such contradictions.


40 posted on 02/13/2015 12:41:22 PM PST by Boogieman
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