[paladinan]

Paul wrote 2 Timothy TO a believer about and for BELIEVERS.

I agree. That's why I was so puzzled at your belief that 2 Timothy says or proves *anything* about the Bible's sufficiency to bring an unbeliever to Christ... especially since the text explicitly talks only about believers. I was pointing out that you (and others of like mind) are stretching 2 Timothy far beyond the breaking point, in an attempt to "shoehorn" it into your presupposition of "sola Scriptura". That horse simply won't run, friend.

Besides, that's not the main issue. The main issue is the adequacy of Scripture.

I was under the impression that the main issue was the adequacy of Scripture ALONE... yes? I have no objection to saying that Scripture is adequate for a great many important things; it's only when you add the word "ALONE" that I have a complaint... for reasons which I've mentioned repeatedly.

[metmom]

Show us why the Scripture that the Holy Spirit inspired is not adequate, that God did not do a good enough job the first time around.

[metmom]

What do we need to know for salvation and maturity in Christ that is NOT found in Scripture?

[CynicalBear]

1 Corinthians 4:6 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other.

Catholics wouldn't want us to go against what scripture says would they? So could you show where the apostles wrote down what they said was the "tradition" they talked about? Surely if they said not to go beyond what was written they would have provided written proof of what they calle "tradition" right?