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Sola Scriptura
The John Ankerberg Show ^ | Feb.11,2015 | James McCarthy;

Posted on 02/11/2015 12:02:36 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: FatherofFive; Dr. Thorne
>>Christ did not speak Greek.<<

You're saying that God didn't speak in the common language of the day and area? Seriously? Did He don understand it or something? Did He not talk to any of the Greeks of the day?

81 posted on 02/11/2015 3:14:18 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: MeganC
>>In what Scripture does the Catholic Church claim authority for having their leaders wear silk robes, red slippers, and for them to live in palaces?<<

Not from scripture. From the pagans. By their own admission they "took into their service" many pagan practices.

82 posted on 02/11/2015 3:15:48 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: YHAOS

*yawn*

Who still has time for this? I’ve got “War and Peace” on CD, and dishes to wash.


83 posted on 02/11/2015 3:16:15 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Where's Dark Betrayal when you really need it?!?" ~James)
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To: redleghunter
FatherOfFive: Where did the table of contents of the Bible come from?

redleghunter: You can get answers to all those questions at any 10-12 year old Evangelical Sunday school class.

All right. Since I assume you've been through such a class (or have access to one, since you said that you can make arrangements), could YOU answer that question, here? How, in your view, were the contents of Scripture decided, and on what authority?
84 posted on 02/11/2015 3:17:01 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: bike800; RnMomof7
>>On whose authority do people say the bible is inspired?<<

The Holy Spirit.

Acts 15:8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

85 posted on 02/11/2015 3:20:12 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
Not from scripture. From the pagans. By their own admission they "took into their service" many pagan practices.

Just as an experiment: look at your left hand. Do you have a wedding ring there? If so, then shake your left hand with your right hand, because you're the user of a pagan practice! If you don't, then try this: do any members of your local worship community wear wedding rings? And if so, are you prepared to rebuke them for their practice of using a pagan symbol?

Come on, now. Before Baptism, everyone was a pagan. If God can't turn a "pagan" into a "non-pagan", then we're done, here.

But surely you know that the Jewish high priest wore special robes, an ephod, etc.?
86 posted on 02/11/2015 3:23:20 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: bike800
>>the Church is going to put together a set of letters written to communities here and there...declare them as inspired.<<

Peter already called Paul's letters "scripture". The oracles of God were entrusted to the Jews and NOT to the Catholic Church. Then read the article for more of your answer.

87 posted on 02/11/2015 3:23:27 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom
OK, so why do Catholics object to Jesus being the Rock on which the church is built?

If they agreed to it, then there would not be a catholic church, would there? BTW, has anyone ever counted how many different cults out there, are all claiming to be the one true church? There are a number of them, but I am just not sure how many.

88 posted on 02/11/2015 3:25:29 PM PST by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered, all it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; metmom; CynicalBear
Here's the problem Thomas.. if Rome claims that scripture requires "authority" to determine its meaning and Rome claims It IS THAT AUTHORITY ...and if Rome says that individual interpretation is not allowed...THEN it has the responsibility to provide it..

In the end it means your priest or "theologians "are no more "capable" of giving a correct rendering of the scriptures.. than say I am...or my Pastor is..

89 posted on 02/11/2015 3:28:11 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: paladinan; metmom

Could we please have the official magisteriums commentary on that chapter ?


90 posted on 02/11/2015 3:30:46 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: paladinan
>>look at your left hand. Do you have a wedding ring there?<<

NO, nor would I be using it in my service to God if I did.

Deuteronomy 12:30 and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, "How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same." 31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God

>>But surely you know that the Jewish high priest wore special robes, an ephod, etc.?<<

Jesus is the High Priest now and there are no priest positions in the New Testament ekklesia other then all believers are priests.

91 posted on 02/11/2015 3:32:52 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Tax-chick

Roger . . . I can take a hint.


92 posted on 02/11/2015 3:33:34 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
No verse in the Bible refers to the Bible as we know it, because the many scrolls which comprise the Bible were written centuries before the Bible was compiled.

Stopped reading right there. You display a lack of understanding of how the NT canon came to be.

93 posted on 02/11/2015 3:33:36 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: paladinan
1) No, it doesn't.

Yes it does.

2 Timothy 3:14-17 You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

2) "Adequate" for *what*, exactly? Your statement is very vague.

No, it's not vague and Scripture itself answers that question.

That is, to make one wise for salvation, through faith in Christ, to teach, reprove, correct, and train in righteousness, and to equip the believer for EVERY good work.

3) So it's not adequate for an unbeliever (say, for bringing him to Christ)?

Absolutely it's adequate to bring the unbeliever to faith in Christ.

As a matter of fact, one only needs to read the gospel of John.

John 20:30-31 Therefore many other signs Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.

How about you just knock off the insults to others, no matter what anyone else does, eh?

What insults? Links to posts please.

When last I checked, the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth was the CHURCH (see 1 Timothy 3:15).

And the Truth that the church is supporting is what exactly?

It isn't the church which is truth. It's only to support the truth. So tell me what the RCC says is the truth.

It *is* authoritative... and after your many discussions with me (and with other Catholics) and the many urgings to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church (so that you'd at least know what you're attacking), you should know that fact, full well. Scripture is unspeakably authoritative; it just isn't designed to work ALONE, nor does it claim to do so.

Where did I ever say it wasn't authoritative? You're correcting a strawman.

Show me where Scripture tells us that it needs help, that it can't work alone.

So, just to be clear about this, do you think that the Holy Spirit inspired, God breathed word isn't adequate/sufficient/whatever, to lead someone to Christ and provide them with everything they need to mature in Him, to thoroughly equip him for every good work?

Is that what you're saying?

Because that's what you are arguing.

94 posted on 02/11/2015 3:41:19 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; ...
RnMom:-— Could you lead us to the infallible Magisterium’s commentary on the whole bible-— No.

STA:Does the Bible require this?

Does the Catholic Church claim this?

Did I?

Well, then, since the RCC has not put out an infallible commentary on its infallible interpretation of Scripture, then neither it nor any Catholic is in any position to criticize or condemn anyone for making their own.

If they're left people high and dry for an infallible interpretation, then people most certainly have the option to interpret it as they see fit and the RCC can't say its wrong because they have nothing that they claim is right (correct) to which to compare it.

95 posted on 02/11/2015 3:45:30 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: paladinan; redleghunter

Wait a minute. Don’t go moving the goalposts.

The initial question is where the Table of Contents came from.

Now you’re asking how the contents of Scripture were decided and on what authority.

Different issue altogether.


96 posted on 02/11/2015 3:48:11 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Bingo!!!


97 posted on 02/11/2015 3:49:09 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: stonehouse01

Fascinating. Thanks for posting!


98 posted on 02/11/2015 3:49:11 PM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: paladinan; metmom
All right. Since I assume you've been through such a class (or have access to one, since you said that you can make arrangements), could YOU answer that question, here? How, in your view, were the contents of Scripture decided, and on what authority?

Where does Rome get its authority from?

99 posted on 02/11/2015 3:50:52 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

My question is not if Peter was the first bishop or not as Pentecost was one of the greatest events recorded in history and Peter was right there leading in it.

I do have a big question if Rome is successor to Peter or not.

On the rock issue, most of what I read agree that stone or rock would be derived from the Aramaic word of Cephas.

Jesus first named Peter (Cephas) in John 1:42.


100 posted on 02/11/2015 3:52:20 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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