Sola Scriptura

The John Ankerberg Show ^ | Feb.11,2015 | James McCarthy;

[CynicalBear]

How pathetic is that? Seven verses? And twisted every one of them to mean something different then what they really mean. No wonder Catholics have to put their faith in the “church” and fear Sola Scriptura.

[CynicalBear]

Oh they have teachings all right. Just any other cult does.

[boatbums]

As I (and others) have said, time and time again (and been ignored, tome and time again): our problem is NOT with "Scripture"; our problem is with Luther's unbiblical and self-contradictory novelty of "Scripture ALONE". Is THAT clear, at least? I'd rather we not be talking past each other, on this point.

If you claim your problem is with Luther's "novelty" of Scripture ALONE (sola Scriptura), why don't you enunciate what you think his doctrine actually was first?

I think you will find that you and most Roman Catholic apologists who condemn the man for supposedly inventing something God never intended - and which is claimed to be the downfall with "Protestantism" - is not at all what he meant. The term simply means:

Sola scriptura means that the Bible is the ultimate and only infallible sufficient source of authority for a Christian.

When we understand and accept that the Holy Scriptures are from God and are THE authority for Christians because of that, we will come to see that sola Scriptura, NOT solo Scriptura, is a truth that was always held by genuine believers because it IS true. There certainly is a place for Holy Spirit led church councils, gifted church leaders and teachers, but, since the Scriptures alone are God-breathed truth, anything that men declare is doctrine to be received by all MUST be measured against Scripture to determine its veracity and agreement with God's divine word. John Calvin said the following:

"The Scriptures obtain full authority among believers only when men regard them as having sprung from heaven, as if there the living words of God were heard."- John Calvin

"But a most pernicious error widely prevails that Scripture has only so much weight as is conceded to it by the consent of the church. As if the eternal and inviolable truth of God depended upon the decision of men!"- John Calvin

We can read what Paul, for example, tells us about Scripture:

You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:14-17)

Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith; to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, be the glory forever. Amen. (Romans 16:25-27)

We can know not only from the writings of the Apostles and disciples but from the earliest Christian leaders that God's word has ALWAYS been held as the authority for what we believe and why we believe it. The Reformers did not invent some new or novel doctrine.

In his book, Holy Scripture: The Ground and Pillar of Our Faith, Volume I: A Biblical Defense of the Reformation Principle of Sola Scriptura, David King has commented,

Sola Scriptura functions as the authoritative norm for the people of God, and therefore stands as the only existing source of the deposit of faith that special revelation has disclosed. This is one reason why Paul wrote as he did in his closing remarks in Romans. He spoke of 'the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith' (Rom 16:25-26). According to the testimony of the Apostle Paul, Scripture has manifested this mystery, and this mystery is authoritatively interpreted by the epistles of the New Testament.

Scripture is therefore authoritatively specified (via apostolic sanction) as the God-ordained means for the manifestation of this mystery, the purpose being 'for obedience to the faith.' If unwritten tradition was to be regarded as a reliable means and/or source for the preservation of binding revelation beyond the time of the apostles, and intended to function perpetually as an authoritative norm alongside Scripture, why did Paul fail to mention such a concept when speaking of 'the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began?' (p.44)

If Roman Catholics want to criticize and attack sola Scriptura, they should at least agree on what they think the term means, don't you think?

[boatbums]

Whistling past the graveyard, will not save prots.

Who's whistling??? The only way anyone gets saved is by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. Jesus said:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. (John 3:16-18)

“I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” (John 6:35-40)

“I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” (John 10:25-30)

[Alamo-Girl]

Praise God!!!

[verga]

First you say , you don' then you say you do, now we are back to you not wearing one. Do you see the contradiction?

Make up your mind.

[verga]

Do you wear your wedding ring as service or worship of God?

Another personal question from a non-Catholic.

[verga]

Well at least you all are admitting that prots have no self control. It is a pleasure to watch you all froth at the mouth in desperation.

[verga]

Not the question. You said you didn’t wear one and then changed your mind.

[verga]

Wrong again.

[verga]

Because they way so?

Could either of you check the non-Catholic dictionary and define "way so." I can't seem to find it in any of my dictionaries, or did the post police make another error (that she loves to lord over others) that she refuses to admit?

[Elsie]

Watched your beautiful country Sodomized by a virtual TRAITOR?..

We want a KING!

We want a KING!!

We want a KING!!!

[Elsie]

Yup... the elephant in the room.

REPENT! America!!!

[Elsie]

Cause we all know, because we've all seen, that the initial question never gets answered. Irony, thy name is metmom.

Show me where I've ever used that tactic.

Are you BLIND???

Everybody has seen it!

[Elsie]

Document or retract.

Really?

Mary is assumed.

[Elsie]

Only narrow minded bigots believe something that foolish.

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Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

[Elsie]

Based on your own personal knowledge of the Holy Scriptures, do you believe that it is wrong and sinful to wear wedding rings?

No.

Based on your own personal knowledge of the Holy Scriptures, do you believe that it is wrong and sinful to wear BellyButton rings?

[Elsie]

...my own personal knowledge of the Holy Scriptures...

Luke 15:22-23
Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate.

[Elsie]

For the same reason Jesus was baptized by John, though he had no sins to repent.

See what convoluted twisting has to be done when one accepts the notice that BAPTISM is NECESSARY unto salvation!!!

[Elsie]

Mary fulfilled the Law.

Get thee behind me SATAN!